KGr.100 August 1940 ?? - Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum

robert · #1 21st July 2020, 20:40

I checked and there is no such loss for 1./KGr.100 in German loss list. So Lochbrunner was not reported as MIA.

Robert

Rottler · #2 21st July 2020, 22:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by robert

I checked and there is no such loss for 1./KGr.100 in German loss list. So Lochbrunner was not reported as MIA.

Robert

Hello Robert,

your information is not correct, see GQM loss return and the correction.
GQM 18 Aug 1940, item 10:
15.8. 1./Kampf.Gr. 100 Feindflug, Ort und Ursache: unbekannt, He 111 H-1 100%. 4 Vermisste (Besatzung Lt Lochbrunner).
Correction 6 Feb 1941: Besatzung Lochbrunner mit Flugzeug zurück. Streiche: 4 Vermisste, 1 He 111 100%.

Regards
Leo

BrianC · #3 21st July 2020, 22:39

Hi guys

Interesting.

Presumably not our man - but at least the correct surname:

Ltn zur see QUEDENAU killed with one other (plus two others injured) in KGr.806 Ju88 crash near Caen on 28 September 1940.

Brian

robert · #4 21st July 2020, 22:40

There is simply a mistake in the lost list. He just force-landed outside his base in the early hours of 16.8.40 and somebody reported him as MIA and then forgot to cancel this report. His logbook clearly show that the aircraft was damaged in 20% and not written off. And there is also no NVM for this loss.

Regards

Robert

BrianC · #5 21st July 2020, 23:26

Hi Robert

I presume that you are referring to Leo's Post 8, and not the above Post 9!

Cheers
Brian

robert · #6 21st July 2020, 23:39

Yes.

Robert

Rottler · #7 22nd July 2020, 13:16

Hello Robert,

I refer German loss lists to the GQM loss returns. In this source on 18 Aug 1940 the Lochbrunner crew was reported as MIA on 15 Aug, a half year later this entry was deleted. So a supposedly loss was documented.
I quote your statement "I checked and there is no such loss for 1./KGr.100 in German loss list". What do you mean by German loss list?

Regards
Leo

robert · #8 22nd July 2020, 16:20

NVM list. Do you have NVM for this loss?

Regards

Robert

Rottler · #9 22nd July 2020, 19:43

Now your statement has become clear to me. You have referred to the not existing NVM list and I have quoted the GQM loss return.

Regards
Leo

BrianC · #10 26th July 2020, 10:29

Hi guys

Thanks - most interesting - so, what were the losses that night?

One missing and two crash-landed (including Lochbrunner)? In that case, who were the missing crew?

Cheers
Brian

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