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Old 15th September 2020, 22:10
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Re: Photos German Flying School

Thanks Clint

If the site is correct it at least shows that the Halberstadt's school functioned to at least Jan 1916.
Not surprising, since it would have been very stupid of the leaders if tney didn't use these existing resources.

What would be interesting to know is the interaction between the school and the Luftstreitkräfte. Since Halberstadt built aircraft it would seem odd indeed if the school used other aircraft then their own. So did the school use aircraft having Bestellnummer or did they use aircraft simply put aside for their own use? Since we, in this example, are in 1916, my guess is that the school was by then 100% controlled by the militaries and had to use true Bestellnummer.

Now, since I am on holidays in Munic I don't have any books available but surely the Halberstadt School was formed before the war? Thus they would by necessity have had to use their own system.

When WW 1 broke out, I don't believe the civil schools stopped overnight.
Most likely many (most?) private schools were already training both civil and military pilots and it would have been very stupid to just shut them down.

So for awhile at least there must have been a transitional period where these private schools continued to function and also before the "useless" ones were closed and the "useful" ones were incorporated into the Luftstreitkräfte.

Now I rest my case here, since going any further is pointless due to the more and more guesswork I have to make. But hopefully those interested will see my aim, and perhaps know a bit more how things worked and what kind of interaction there was between civilians and the militaries.

I know I am on very thin ice here......thus quite a bit of rambling I'm afraid.

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Old 16th September 2020, 00:11
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Re: Photos German Flying School

Hi Stig,


I hope you're having a pleasant time in Munich.


The dates for the Halberstadt School are here : http://www.frontflieger.de/2-fshalberstadt.html and are given as 19.09.14 to the end of the war.Whereas, according to Jack Herris in AEG Aircraft of WW.I P.4 the AEG School which I referenced with regard to B.I B.100/17 had to be closed in 1917. So clearly operating dates varied according to circumstances for the company run schools. What I believe we can say is that company schools of the larger manufacturers did not close when military FEAs opened. There was no such link. Indeed the first five FEA's actually existed prior to the Halberstadt school opening given the dates for Halberstadt already quoted.



With regard to ooperating aircraft types other than those manufactured by Halberstadt, that doesn't seem unusual for any of the Flying Schools, but in the case of Halberstadt, although not all Bestellnummer for Halberstadt B types are known the number of trainer aircraft produced by Halberstadt would appear to be too low to equip the school on their own and many Halberstadt B machines seem to have been operated by the Army in any event. A more interesting question would be whether some of the larger already established manufacturers used machines from other manufacturers.


Also while looking up info for the Bavarian LVG B.I in the appropriate thread, I note that there is a photo and colour illustration of LVG B.I No.14 of the Herzog Karl Friedrich Fliegerschule at Gotha (FEA 3) in LVG Aircraft of WW.I Vol.1 which shows a line under the o of No rather, as would appear to be the case with the machines with numbers in this thread. So it appears possible to say following Jean's helful info about Hagenau that the aircraft shown are from FEA 3.




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