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Old 29th September 2020, 18:41
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Re: Soviet Fighter Losses in Hungary 14 March 1945

American documents say that at 1400, around this time American fighters spotted 7 enemy ME-109s, described as "greenish gray wings and fuselage with Yellow noses," at 46 40 N, 18 55 E, a coordinate near Paks, east of Ozora. Does that paint scheme match Lt. Forró's unit (is it 101st Home Air Defense Fighter Wing?) Thank you, this is all very interesting.
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Old 29th September 2020, 18:50
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Re: Soviet Fighter Losses in Hungary 14 March 1945

I'd say yes, this painting scheme was typical on Hungarian fighters in March, 1945 and on.
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Old 30th September 2020, 02:43
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Re: Soviet Fighter Losses in Hungary 14 March 1945

This site has Lt. Paul Murphy's MACR. Murphy was shot down along with Adamson. He attests that he and Adamson were brought down by AA.

https://www.ace1945.com/files/MACR_MaryMac001.pdf
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Old 30th September 2020, 11:04
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Re: Soviet Fighter Losses in Hungary 14 March 1945

Let's say Adamson was ALSO hit by flak, but was NOT shot down by flak. It is a BIG difference! Murphy crashlanded at Bia-Farkashegy, Budapest-W,-NW (talked to a guy who took rubber from one of his wheels after the war for AC models, as Farkashegy was/is a sport airfield!), while Adamson at Ozora-S. Check the map, this is a HUGE difference! So it is impossible that Murphy saw Adamson's loss, he just saw that his plane was also damaged by flak - which turned out to be critical for him, but not for Adamson. Adamson was finally downed in a dogfight further south, enroute home. Perhaps because his plane was already damaged by flak and was flying at low altitude.

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Old 30th September 2020, 16:38
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Re: Soviet Fighter Losses in Hungary 14 March 1945

Also very interesting, I think that Murphy must have confused Tatabanya with Gyor. I severely doubt he got that far west (I could be wrong though), in his escape report he said he flew east 10 minutes before he crashed near Budaors. I find it very unlikely he chased the aircraft that far west of Gyor, but I suppose it is possible.Typical that this wasn't in the MACR for his March loss, instead in the MACR for his April loss.
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