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Old 3rd October 2020, 19:33
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Fw 190B-2 WNr 285365 ??

Michael Balss, quoting GQM files, lists an enigmatic loss with "Arado Neubrandenburg" as take-off airfield:

02 August 1944
Crash at Prenzlau (3 civilians killed on the ground)
Fw 190 B-2 WNr 285365 80%
pilot Gfr Karl-Heinz Röhm KIA (from FFS A 12)

This loss seems to me totally screwed up as the Fw 190B did not get far beyond prototype status and there was obviously no such WNr range for the Fw 190.
Is somebody able to help and/or has access to the original files?
Thanks to you all in advance.

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Old 4th October 2020, 12:57
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Re: Fw 190B-2 WNr 285365 ??

I have listed as Fw 190B testbeds:
0035 Fw 190V12 SK+JR? scheduled to test the pressurized cockpit, cancelled in favor of WNr 0046-0049
0039 Fw 190V17 CF+OX scheduled as B-varianted, used as Fw 190C prototype
0046 Fw 190V46 TI+IK testing of pressurized cockpit
0047 Fw 190V47 TI+IL testing of pressurized cockpit
0048 Fw 190V48 TI+IM testing of pressurized cockpit, scheduled for testing of powerplants for Fw 190B-0
0049 Fw 190V49 TI+IO testing of pressurized cockpit, scheduled for testing of powerplants for Fw 190B-1
(0150)811 Fw 190V50 BH+CA 1st example of B-1 production variant, planned as 210??? WNr range
(0150)812-(0150)817 BH+CA-BH+CG rebuilt as Waffenerprobungsträger, used for testing of A-5 variants
The above-mentioned WNr 285365 does not fit in any way and I guess this loss may concern a different type of a/c. Any idea?

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Old 4th October 2020, 16:52
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Re: Fw 190B-2 WNr 285365 ??

Wn 285365, does'nt seem to fit to any plane ...


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Old 5th October 2020, 11:20
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Re: Fw 190B-2 WNr 285365 ??

The loss is mentioned in the GQM report from 10.Aug 44 Nr. 13.
As unit is given AGO-Werke Neubrandenburg.
The subtype may point to the Bü 181 B-2, but also here the c/n does not fit.
Here may only the NVM help to solve the problem.


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Old 5th October 2020, 18:06
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Re: Fw 190B-2 WNr 285365 ??

Fw 190 A-3 WNr. 0135365? I know it a a long shot.
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Old 5th October 2020, 18:22
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Re: Fw 190B-2 WNr 285365 ??

A pilot of a school, Gefreiter ?? Really wonder what he was doing by AGO..


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Old 5th October 2020, 20:28
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Re: Fw 190B-2 WNr 285365 ??

NVM does not report any aircraft. And Röhm was not the pilot of the "Fw 190 B-2" mentiond in the GQM.


Röhm was beheaded from the crashing aircraft ("Durch abstürzendes Flugzeug Kopf vom Rumpf getrennt").


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Old 6th October 2020, 03:37
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Re: Fw 190B-2 WNr 285365 ??

I have the same as Roland from the Schulen losses. Recorded it because it was in the records, but can't say as I have any opinion beyond being a suspect WNr.

FW 190B-2, 285365, Röm, Gefr. Karl-Heinz (Sch), , , , Arado-Flzg.Werke Neubrandenburg, , , , , 02-Aug-44, Killed in crash due to technical failure. 3 civilians injured., F from Flzg.Führ.Sch. (A) 12., Lfl.10, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/780, Flzg.-Unfälle und Verluste bei Schulen und usw., p.69, , Prenzlau, 80%, H, , ,
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