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Old 24th October 2020, 20:09
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Re: Loss details of ZG crews June 1944 over Rugen

Thanks John


20.06.1944 Me 410A-1 WNr. 420455 3U+NP 6./ZG 26
Uffz. Otto Nickel (FF), gefallen.
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LK, Absturz Gut Schmuckerow, 15 Kilometer südlich Anklam.


The correkt name ist Schmuggerow. 30years ago I lived and worked there, but the exakt chrashsite is unknown for me.


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Old 25th October 2020, 00:26
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Re: Loss details of ZG crews June 1944 over Rugen

John/Rene

Very interesting details.
Rügen is a very fascinating Island. Possibly the last pagan territory in Europe and a place I so far never have visited. A place hidden by the mist of time...

Checking your data with what Petrick/Stocker stated in the Me 210/410 book, I am puzzled with their dates compared to what you John lists.

420490, 420627, 710364, 710371, 420495, 420455, 710358 all on 25 June
710339 30 June
710332 12 July
710331 2 July

420473/5 is in itself a problem, Petrick/Stocker confuse it with 420443 so I believe 420473 is actually correct.
They have 420475 as lost on both 18 May and 25 June 1944 (two seperate lines) but I think the date 18 May is correct.

Actually they don't have a single aircraft listed as lost on 20 June. Since they have other dates which are also wrong, I wonder why?

Possibly they have confused at least some of the dates with the date the GQM was issued, but that feels a bit odd....

There are more puzzling details in their listings, unfortunately, with regard to these WNr
420455 is also listed as destroyed 14 March 1944 which makes it difficult to again become destroyed 25 June (well 20 June)
420490 is also listed as destroyed 2 June (same problem as above)
710331 is listed as having to calibrate its cannon with Dornier (document dated 17 July 1944), and so are 710332, 710339, 710358, 710364 and 710371.
The calibration could of course be a routine business with Dornier not knowing some aircraft had already been destroyed.

Comments welcome.

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Stig
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