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Old 1st October 2006, 20:08
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My comments concerns the FIRST edition
My comments regarding the 6 damaged and possibly two REPAIRED is my own thinking. As far as I can tell from YOUR comments from edition two is that the author does not bother to comment this fact. I don't know if this is correct or not. YOU have the second edition, I could only afford the FIRST!!
My comments regarding the first edition is that the author, if he had tried just a little harder, could have produced a far better book!!

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Old 1st October 2006, 20:54
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Re: Portuguese Hawks

Stig,

You may be right, but the Mohawk is just a small part of more than 75 years of a/c history described. Again, since I know of no other similar work, I cannot compare. Regardless, for the subject at hand it is still very nice.

What I miss is more information on exact colors and schemes. So to each his own, right?

M.C. Lopes also wrote a (bi)lingal book on Hurricanes and Spitfires in FAP use, looking forward to reading that one too one day.

So what's your link with the FAP?
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Hello Gentlemen,

Many thanks for the responce.

I have the same serial numbers from Air britain series.
So there looks to have been 15 sent to Portugal from the U.K.
But only 11 used by the Portuguese. Perhaps the others were damaged as reported or perhaps kept back as spare parts too.

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Old 2nd October 2006, 19:49
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Re: Portuguese Hawks

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No link to Portugal, except that I am interested in the smaller air forces around the globe. Unfortunately most authors from the smaller nations are not reciprocal, or haven't been so in the past. Not much is published for example in English with regard to Latin America, Spain and Portugal.
A second book I bought from Portugal was Aeronaves militares Portuguesas no seculo xx. Published in 2000, nothing in English there either. Perhaps Snr Lopes has started to realise this with his updated edition, but again unfortunately, I don't have it.

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Re: Portuguese Hawks

Hi,
In addition to what has been posted, the book "Spitfires and Hurricanes in Portugal" says that 15 were indeed delivered. It says that some sources claim that a 16th was delivered but that is false.
In the book it cites a telegram sent by the British Embassy in Lisbon to Britain saying that "Of the [15] Mohawks delivered 1 has been written off and 8 damaged, 6 of which by sea water contamination whilst in transit. Some of the 8 can be repaired. In order to make up the 2 squadrons Portugal have asked for more." [eventually no more Mohawks were sent]
So 15 were delivered, some were damaged, a few were repaired and 11 were accepted for service.
My interest in the Portuguese Air Force is just that I am, well...portuguese!

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Old 3rd October 2006, 19:36
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Re: Portuguese Hawks

Bem vindo au nosso forum!

Well that's about the most Portuguese writing you'll get out of me.

My dad's Portuguese, I'm more of a tourist. But I love Portugal.



Right now I am really missing my Vinho Verde and fresh Sardines...

Back to the subject.

How would you rate the Cruz book in general?
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