German docs in TSAMO

[Nick Beale]

Only 46 pages and no German title but there are some interesting items in Дело 290 which seems to relate to German liaison with the Allied and Russian authorities right after the surrender, covering Schleswig-Holstein, Denmark and Norway. Two sample pages attached.

[richdlc]

if you find anything related to the He 219 Nick...

[Nick Beale]

Originally Posted by richdlc

if you find anything related to the He 219 Nick...

I've just posted cleaned-up versions of the two attachments and you'll see that in Luftgau XI they say there were 46 x He 219 surrendered to the Allies plus another 8 in Denmark.

Something tells me that "46" is a typo, maybe for 16, but I leave that to the experts.

[richdlc]

nice! Thanks Nick

[Merlin]

From a more detailed listing:

He 219 captured in Northern Germany:
43 Westerland
1 Husum
2 Blankensee

He 219 captured in Denmark:
7 Grove
1 Kastrup

[richdlc]

thank you Gerhard

[ad astra]

Originally Posted by Merlin

From a more detailed listing:

He 219 captured in Northern Germany:
43 Westerland
1 Husum
2 Blankensee

He 219 captured in Denmark:
7 Grove
1 Kastrup

Hello Gerhard,

The 2nd TAF Report of the inspection on May 16 lists two He 219 as destroyed which corresponds with reports that almost all aircraft at Blankensee were destroyed by GAF personnel on May 2nd. The above attachment refers to aircraft "handed over", which appears to describe intact aircraft such as at Westerland and in Denmark. As far as I know, there is no photograph of the He 219 at Husum.

I wonder whether the OKL Nord list would include the two destroyed aircraft or whether it refers to two other He 219? No doubt, the Blankensee aircraft meet the "Nordraum" location.

Kind regards
Mathias

[Nick Beale]

Akte 440 in the OKH series of files is unusual. The material dates from September and October 1939 and is a mixture of Army documents and many Luftwaffe items including orders for the establishment of units including new Jagstaffeln, and Kampfgruppe Ju 88 (Greifswald, 21 September 1939).

On 19 September, there is an order to establish two Kampfgeschwader staff and 14 Kampgruppen, along with a list of these and document setting out where they are all based.

The first items on the file deal with air attacks (mainly friendly fire) on German troops in the Polish Campaign.

Akte 580 (in Russian) has plans of the Vienna Flak towers.

Akte 441 deals with the air defence of Romania in 1944 including fighter and Flak dispositions as well as bar charts of of Bf 109 G-6 production.

Akte 845 has maps of Aufkl.Gr. Ob.d.L. reconnaissance flights over the Soviet Union in May and June 1944 before Barbarossa.

Akte 270: oblique photos of the Sussex coast taken by 3.(F)/10 on 1 September 1940.

Akte 62 explains all the various organisation symbols used on maps and orders of battle by the army, navy and Luftwaffe (176 pages in all).

[Franek Grabowski]

Have you found anything interesting from your point of view? For me it was a bit disappointing. I wonder how many of the files do exist in other copies in BAMA.

[Nick Beale]

Originally Posted by Franek Grabowski

Have you found anything interesting from your point of view? For me it was a bit disappointing. I wonder how many of the files do exist in other copies in BAMA.

Worth it for the 1940 daily sitreps alone. For me at the moment that is the biggest thing but there are other individual documents that I'm finding useful too. Anyone researching the Polish campaign would be very happy, I think.

They may exist in BA-MA but I can read the online ones without spending time in quarantine!