Ju 87D of SG.2

[Urusut]

Hello,

Can anyone provide details of the losses of the Ju 87D of SG.2 on the 17.12.1943?

Thanks
Oleg

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Oleg,

Here we go:
1. Ju 87 D-5 W.Nr. 130876 "T6+DR", 8./SG 2, Lt. Friedrich Ridder KIA, Bf Uffz. Hans Pöhlmann returned, Pl.Qu. 2964, south of Rybtschina, due to in flight collision with Ju 87 D-3 W.Nr. 110822.

2. Ju 87 D-3 W.Nr. 110822 "T6+JR", 8./SG 2, Uffz. Karl Sattler KIA, Bf Uffz. Werner Feick KIA, Pl.Qu. 2964, south of Rybtschina, due to in flight collision with Ju 87 D-5 W.Nr. 130876.

3. Ju 87 D-5 W.Nr. 130811 "T6+DT", 9./SG 2, Uffz. Werner Hübner WIA, emergency landing near Apostolowo due to engine damage. Plane 100% destroyed by fire.

Source is GQM (#12-24); WASt (C.Charles); VDK via Michael Balss.

Cheers
Marc

[Stig Jarlevik]

Marc

Something is wrong here
If you check the collision data you say WNr 110876 in item 1. and 110822 in item 2.
Which is correct?

B Rgds
Stig

[Rottler]

Hello Oleg,

according to the GQM loss return the Ju 87 D WNr. 110822, 130876 and 130811 were lost on 18 Dec 1943, not 17 Dec 1943.

Regards
Leo

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Originally Posted by Stig Jarlevik

Marc

Something is wrong here
If you check the collision data you say WNr 110876 in item 1. and 110822 in item 2.
Which is correct?

B Rgds
Stig

Stig, my bad, sorry: 2. is W.Nr. 110822 indeed. I have corrected it now.

Cheers
Marc

[Stig Jarlevik]

Thanks Guys

Can we now unite with regard to the date??

Cheers
Stig

[Jim P.]

The Gen.Qu. loss reports do say 18-Dec for all three machines, but in the St.G. 2/SG 2 history by Hazard the dates are given as 17-Dec. I presume he was using the WASt records much like Charles and Balss. (Note that Hazard fills in a quite a number of codes that are missing from the Gen.Qu. reports as one illustration of use of the WASt records.) Anyone have copies of these to validate?

[Stig Jarlevik]

Thanks Jim

Cheers
Stig

[Urusut]

Hello Marc, Stig, Leo, Jim!

Great information, thanks very much!

Kind regards,
Oleg