Me 262 in Italy - photo evidence

[Nick Beale]

Regarding 170053 from ULTRA:

CX/MSS/T505/29
Issued 0200/31/3 signed Adjutant:-
… 3) There are still 2 serviceable ((Me 262)) W/Nos. 1110818 [sic] and 111922 with pilots with KEGIA ((6./KG)) 51. Take off after restoration of runway probably on 31/3 to Unterschlauersbach. ((Me 262)) of (( (Roman) I./KG)) , W/No. 170053 Ltn. Strate will take off on 31/3 if enemy situation still permits.

CX/MSS/R. 507 (C)
12. Document stamped 0830/29/3, signed BATEL Ltn.
Strength return for 28/3:
((A/c)) total 6, serviceable 6, wks. nos. 111635, 170053, + 170103, 170105, 110744, +110427. KAMERADEN ((crews)) total 9, operational 9, ready 9.
NOTE: Ltn. BATEL signs for (Roman) I./KG 51. + Transfers of these aircraft on 30/3 in MSS/T.505/29, where wks. nos. given as 100103, 170427, respectively.

CX/MSS/R 530 (A)
10. From AMC Neuburg to AMC Burg Nr. Magdeburg dated 11/4:-
Red 1, Works No. 170053 made an emergency landing nr. Bachhollen S. of Neuburg. Pilot Ltn. Strat [sic], uninjured.
NOTE: Bachhollen not located but there is a Hollenbach 9 kms. S. of Neuburg - a.d. - Donau.

So according to the above sources, this was a serviceable aircrcaft on 29 and 31 March and was damaged on 11 April 1945

[Stig Jarlevik]

Thanks Nick

Very interesting. Can ULTRA pull another white rabbit out of its hat and say anything
regarding WNr 110530?

From what I read of your summary above, ULTRA never knew the subversions
so A-1 or B-1 cannot be determined from such files?

Cheers
Stig

[Nick Beale]

Originally Posted by Stig Jarlevik

Thanks Nick

Very interesting. Can ULTRA pull another white rabbit out of its hat and say anything
regarding WNr 110530?

It might but not in any message that I've transcribed, unfortunately.

Originally Posted by Stig Jarlevik

From what I read of your summary above, ULTRA never knew the subversions
so A-1 or B-1 cannot be determined from such files?

Sometimes untis reported sub-types, sometimes not. Sadly you're out of luck this time.