St Kap 2./NJG 2 1940-41

[Mikael Olrog]

Hello, Heinrich Hagmaier flew with Oblt. Schütze from flight 99 on 21 April 1941 to flight 181 on 13 September 1941 and his logbook is clearly signed by Schütze Oblt u. Staffelkapitän.



Schütze is given as Staffelkapitän for 4./NJG 2 from 27 June 1941 in Meyer Stipdonk - and there is a change in aircraft registrations in the Hagmaier logbook from May 1941 when they switch from 2 STaffel aircraft with staffel letter "K" to I./Stab aircraft with "B" before starting to flyg "M" staffel aircraft of 4./NJG 2 from 7 July 1941. So it appears that the transfer from 2./NJG 2 could have taken place already in May - at least judging by aircraft letters.

[Stig Jarlevik]

Interesting points Mikael

How detailed information do we have with regard to these two individuals and the unit in question?
If one was the deputy of the other would that shine through anywhere?

Logbooks are always interesting I suppose, but there can be many reasons for these changes.
A Stab aircraft on loan perhaps and/or was Schütze allowed to take his own aircraft with him when he
transferred to his new unit? If he did, new markings most likely lagged behind a bit, and so on.

Cheers
Stig

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According to recollections from unit members written down in the 60'ies or early 70'ies Oblt. Schütze was Staffelkapitän of 5./NJG1 from mid July 1940 following Oblt. Streib. On July 19th he was apparently wounded during an intruder mission over England and hospitalized for some time. Lt. Albert Schulz is said to have stepped in as initial substitution Staffelkapitän because Oblt. R. Jung who was second in command was provisionally leading the 6./NJG1 respectively the renamed 3./NJG2. Some time between end of August and 1st October 1940 Jung became Staffelkapitän 2./NJG2. Source: RL 10/588, BAMA.


Kind regards
Mathias

[Chris Goss]

Thanks-interesting but confusing! I can see no mention of him being wounded in Luftwaffe records (which Matti has confirmed) and July 1940 would have been too early for intruder missions. The published sources state Streib who was St Kap 2./NJG 1 became Gr Kdr I./NJG 12 7 October 1940 just after around the time II./NJG 1 became I./NJG 2

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Chris, I agree that these recollections need to be taken with a grain of salt. Regarding the beginning of intruder missions, according to the flight log of Ofw. Schmid he actually reported on the night of July 19./20. an operation over England in a Do 17 Z with 1./ZG1 markings.


Kind regards
Mathias