He111s III/KG3 and KG53 in late 1944

[Jaap Woortman]

According to the loss list of the Dutch Study Group Airwar 1939-1945 the following He 111 crashes of KG 3/53 have taken place in the Netherlands.

26‑07‑1944 Eindhoven/Acht He 111 5K+GT W.Nr.161230, 9./K.G.3. Flugzeugabsturz durch Beruehrung mit Hochspannungsmast. Pilot Uffz. Günter Rohne. Time 0.10 hrs.

31-08-1944 Gilze(Vossenberg) He 111 W.Nr. 16771 of 8./KG 3. Time 0500 hrs. Pilot Uffz. L.Gruber.

19-09-1944 Scharl(Fr.) He 111A-1 W.nr. 610571 of 8./KG 53. Time unknown. Pilot Fw. H.Holz.

07-10-1944 Groet(Heereweg) He 111H-16 W.Nr.160969 of 8./KG 53. Time 20.00 hrs. Pilot Fw. L.Gall.

9/10-10-1944 IJsselmeer(Vrouwenzand) He 111 III./KG 53 100% Bruch.

09-10-1944 Nyemirdum/Kippenburg He 111 100% Bruch. KG 53 Pilot Fw.A.Schmidt.
09-10-1944 Nyemirdum/Kippenburg He 111 100% Bruch. KG 53 Pilot Fw. V.Kappel. Collision between the both.

19-11-1944 IJsselmeer(near Molkwerum) He 111H-16. 100% Bruch. 5./KG 53. Pilot Fw. R.Ripper.

25-11-1944 Texel(16 km. from) He 111H-16 W.Nr. 110304. 1./KG 53. Time 05.10 hrs. Pilot Fw. K.Hillmann.

27-11-1944 Hillegom. He 111. Unit unknown, could be from a TG. No more information available.

Jaap Woortman
Secr. Study Group Airwar 1939-1945.

[rob van den nieuwendijk]

Hello all,

Regarding 27 Nov 44 - no crash in Hillegom - a member of a German ground unit was killed - Fsch Jg Rgt 15.

On 4/5 Nov 44 - He 111 H 16, W/nr 8540, A1 + GK, 2./KG 53 - near Katwijk - Antennenberührung und Notlandung harten Aufschlag. Feindflug gegen England. Crew: Pilot: Obfhr Karl Heinz Mallach (+), Obs Ogefr Paul Röhl (+), gunner Uffz Karl H Welzel (+) and gunner Ogfr Anton Kartak (wia).

Is there any more data available on 23 Oct 44 crash near Zandvoort?

Regards
Rob

[Brian Bines]

All I have for the 23-10-44 is He 111 H16 5K+ER of 1/KG 53 w.n. 161619 crashed ( notwassern) into the sea following engine trouble at Pl.Qu 4355 (off Zandvoort ?) . Bs Ogef Walter Hasler drowned body recovered, rest of crew not named rescued,

Regards
Brian Bines

[Brian]

Many thanks Brian, Nick, Jaap and Rob - I didn't expect such an excellent and speedy response.

Since you all seem so far knowledgeable than me, are you able to advise the identities of the three III/KG3 crews (plus aircraft markings/WrkNr etc) lost on the night of 27-28 July 1944?

Also, an aircrew member of 7/KG53, Hans Hoehler was wounded and the observer killed (possibly on the night of 3-4 January 1945). Any further details would be most welcomed.

I have further queries!!!!


Cheers
Brian

[Hans Nauta]

Hi Brian (and Jaap and Rob)

You could expect I would show up in this thread !

Some small details to Jaap's list:

07.10.44 Wnr 160969
5K+DS hit the Southern antenna of the Sonne-Electra system at Groet-Petten. The exact crash time is 19.29 hrs
FF: Fw Lothar GALL, ErkM 54595/18 (KIA)
BO: Fw Mathias OBERMAYER, ErkM 53452/150 (KIA)
BF: Fw Heinz DAHMS, ErkM 54595/23 (KIA)
BM: Uffz Peter IRMTRAUD, ErkM 71061/586 (KIA)
BS: Obgefr Kurt BUSCH, ErkM 71069/350 (KIA)

10.10.44 Wnr Unknown
exact crashtime is 01.15 hrs. The crew was rescued. The wreckage was recovered after the war, see atttached image.

25.11.44 Wnr 110304
A1+BH didn't crash 10 miles West of Texel (as stated in the Combat Report), but 10 km W of Egmond.
FF: Fw Kurt HILLMANN, ErkM 53543/793 (KIA)
BO: Uffz Rudolf MARTIN, ErkM 215508/122 (MIA)
BF: Fw Ludwig KALBER, ErkM 53543/195 (MIA)
BM: Uffz Jürgen HAUSER, ErkM 53543/196 (MIA)
BS: Uffz Josef FAUERNIG, ErkM 65060/1 (MIA)

Best regards,
Hans Nauta

[Brian Bines]

Jaap- the He 111 you list at Hillegom on the 27-11-44 may have been one of the two aircraft of 1/TG 30 lost on this day. I have part of a NVM which shows one aircraft w.n. ?422 with Ff.Ofw. Ernst Fiala inj. B Uffz. Georg Lindemann +, Bf Fw. Emil Mohrhardt +, Bd Uffz. Robert Ulrich +. Bw Uffz. Karl Selbach +. The other aircraft was S3+AH w.n. 701399 with Ff Fw. Erich Hamann inj. died on 28-11-44 at Lw. Laz. Frankfurt B. Gef Heinrich Bomholt ?, Bf Uffz Hans Kreuzer ?, Bd Uffz. Alfred Luders ? and Bw Uffz Alfred Haase ? I assume that Ofw. Fiala's aircraft would be the most likely to have crashed at Hillegom.
I believe a He 111 was claimed shot down at 0325 hrs by a P 61 crew of the 422 nd. NF Squadron on the 27th. but I have no more details,
Regards,
Brian Bines