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Old 9th February 2023, 18:51
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Bomber losses at Rzhev, Aug-Sep 1942

I am looking for German bomber (Ju 88, Ju 87 and He 111) losses in the Rzhev-Zubtsov area for 29 July - 29 September 1942. Currently, I have been looking at a lot of Soviet pilot victory claims and claims for damaged bombers in this region. The Bf 109 losses are very well described in Prien’s JFV 9/II and III. Have just looked at his victory claims list in JFV 9/II page 435 in which he has I/JG 52. It lists on 11.09.42 Uffz. Hermann Kübler and Lt Rudolf Miethig 3/JG 52 claiming I-153 but in Tony Woods it has I-180. The I-153, I have not found in this area at this time. Kübler was rammed from the sky but it wasn’t a I-153.
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Re: Bomber losses at Rzhev, Aug-Sep 1942

"Kübler was rammed from the sky but it wasn't a I-153." - Michael, there were no I-153 type aircraft in that area at all. But it was the Yak-7b fighter, which was produced by plant No. 153 of the NKAP. By the way, the crash sites of both planes were found (they collided on a collision course). The Yak-7b engine jammed and the pilot jumped out, but the wing of the Bf-109G-2 was torn off, the German pilot went missing.
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