The first ace to reach a certain score - Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum

knusel · #1 28th March 2023, 13:01

Any idea what he believed to have shot down on 16.March?
Cheers,
Michael

HGabor · #2 28th March 2023, 13:16

I do not know.
Gabor

knusel · #3 28th March 2023, 14:33

It is the only one of the 352 with no suggesstion for the type.

HGabor · #4 28th March 2023, 15:25

Could be. But it is irrelevant, since most of Erich Hartmann's claims -even where the AC types are specified- are unreliable anyways.
Gabor

knusel · #5 28th March 2023, 17:00

I'm not convinced that that can be said.

HGabor · #6 28th March 2023, 18:09

That's OK, but I am. I did enough research to see how poor Hartmann's tally is. His claiming reliability is way under 30%. The math is easy to apply this to his 352. I was actually shocked to see his real performance while writing the book:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Verified-Vi...6&unfiltered=1

What really bugs me is that because of Hartmann's false and inflated record, the truly most successful fighter ace of all times (which also has to be a German pilot) 78 years after the war still did not get the recognition he deserves...

Gabor

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