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Old 5th July 2023, 11:56
Courtois Laurent Courtois Laurent is offline
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Re: JG 51 victories (Part 2)

5th July 1943.

Concerning the Taravkov death the report of the 1st VA give :
At 8:05 p.m., 4 Yak-7s fought against 4 FW-190s following which 3 FW-190s were shot down and crushed near Kouïava station. ( 10km north Lioudinovo, Gradnez 44198)
Loss: During the return to his airfield 10 km south of Sukhinitchi, pilot Torovkov parachuted while his Yak-7 was flying in an inverted position. The parachute did not open, the pilot died.

No German claim matches, which seems normal since the Yak-7 flew 70 km before the pilot fatally tried to parachute.

Concerning the Soviet claims can be 2/3 of overclaiming if we consider that Egon Raukes lost his life in this fight

3./J.G.54 Fl.Pl. Karatschew, absturz nach luftkampf FW-190 A5 n° 1301, 100%, Uffz, Raukes Egon, todt - (N°73/RL_2_III_1191)
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Old 5th July 2023, 17:12
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Re: JG 51 victories (Part 2)

Courtois

I know that you are only answering a request from Nick Hector but I am a bit confused
In post 142 you say Taravkov was killed on 5 July 1943
In post 146 you say Taravkov was killed on 5 June 1943
Which date is correct? Since you mention the loss of Raukes I take it 5 July is correct and not June?

If the loss of Raukes in this context is correct it should be transferred to JG 54 victories. There is a
separate topic about that.

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Old 6th July 2023, 09:28
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Re: JG 51 victories (Part 2)

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Courtois

I know that you are only answering a request from Nick Hector but I am a bit confused
In post 142 you say Taravkov was killed on 5 July 1943
In post 146 you say Taravkov was killed on 5 June 1943
Which date is correct? Since you mention the loss of Raukes I take it 5 July is correct and not June?

If the loss of Raukes in this context is correct it should be transferred to JG 54 victories. There is a
separate topic about that.

Cheers
Stig
Hello,

it's july naturally, the posts are always 80 years off, so if I forget the date or make a mistake when switching languages (I work simultaneously in German, English, French and Russian), you can correct it quite easily.
Thank you for pointing out my mistake.
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Old 6th July 2023, 12:31
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Hello,

it's july naturally, the posts are always 80 years off, so if I forget the date or make a mistake when switching languages (I work simultaneously in German, English, French and Russian), you can correct it quite easily.
Thank you for pointing out my mistake.
Cheers Courtois
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