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Old 20th November 2023, 09:57
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Re: identification of the Normandy-Niemen victories : overclaiming my friend!

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Originally Posted by Franek Grabowski View Post
To be fair, you would need to make a similar scrutiny for Ile de France Squadron.
To be fair, I think I'll start by doing it with the JG-51 and JG-54 others, which were opposed to the 1st Soviet VA.

And also look at the other Soviet units, because the overclaiming is not systematic there, it is mainly concentrated in certain units for example like the "Normandy" or the 8th IAK (air force composed of 2 divisions = 6 regiments ).

What seems to emerge is that the Luftwaffe, which no longer had control of the skies in 1943, was already leading an aerial guerrilla war harassing the already vastly superior Russian air force. By “air guerilla” I mean the tactics of René Fonck, surprise attack, not extended in case of failure. Scout, hit and run!
It is certainly this escape which led the Soviet pilots (who applied the Guyenemer tactic, that is to say not being afraid of taking bullets into the plane) to consider that the planes were only hit, as shot down.
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