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Old 22nd September 2024, 11:20
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Question PLOIESTI 06/10/44

Hello

They are credited with victories...but what did they claim?

71°Fsqd
Ralph Hisey=1 (Do-217?)
Carl Hoenshell=3
Rudolph Janci=2
John Allen=1
Chester Heien=1 (Do-217?)
Shepard=1 (prob.?)
Flack=1 (prob.?)

George Eldred=1 IAR 80/81 prob.?

82°FG
William Jefferson=1
John Mcmonegal=1

Merrill Adelson=2 +1prob.?
one Me-210
one He-111
one Fighter prob.?

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Michel
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Old 23rd September 2024, 10:05
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Re: PLOIESTI 06/10/44

Michel

Our friend Geoffrey Sinclair wishes to add the following

According to the 82nd FG report for 10 June 1944 claims total 5-3-1
Destroyed, Me110 LtCol Mason, Hs126 Lt Lette, Me210 and Me109 Lt
Adelson, Me109 Lt Rognier? Bognier?
Probable T/E a/c Lt Adelson, Biplane Major Phillips, Me109 Lt Carroll
Damaged Me109 Lt Kidder

By the time it reached 15th AF HQ, destroyed, 1 Bf109, 1 Bf110, 1 Me210,
1 He111, 1 Hs126, probable 1 Bf109, 1 S/E a/c, 1 biplane, damaged 1 Bf109.

No break down for 1st FG, the Air Force report says Bf109 4-2-4, Fw190
6-1-2, Do217 6-0-0, CR42 5-0-0, Fi156 1-0-0, T/E a/c 2-0-0

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Old 30th September 2024, 13:11
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Angry Re: PLOIESTI 06/10/44

This doenst really clarify my problem.
J' have the list of the 28 vic.attributed in Romania + 1 (Varnell...J don't know where?)...but J don't know the types (bf.109..fw.190..Do-217???) assigned at each pilots.

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Old 30th September 2024, 13:29
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Re: PLOIESTI 06/10/44

Cannot add anything on the victories, but your Varnell comment is possibly off. According to Frank Olynyk's Stars & Bars, Varnell made no claim on June 10, although he did claim on June 9 and June 11. If any member has a copy of Olynyk's MTO claims book, it would solve your mystery. Unfortunately I do not have it, only his ETO claims book.

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Old 2nd October 2024, 20:01
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Re: PLOIESTI 06/10/44

Frank Olynyk lists the following in his USAAF MTO Claims booklet:

33 dest-6 prob-7 dam, all on the morning of June 10, 1944 on the Ploesti mission as follows:

27 FS
Maj. Francis J. Pope Me-109 dam
1/Lt. George R. Eldred Me-109 dest + Me-109 dam
1/Lt. Richard M. Huber Me-109 dest + Me-109 prob
1/Lt. Armour Conway Miller Me-109 dest + 2 Me-109s dam
1/Lt. Robert C. Burgoyne Me-109 prob
2/Lt. Philip E. Tovrea, Jr. Me-109 dest

71 FS
1/Lt. William D. Armstrong CR.42 dest
2/Lt. Herbert Brooks Hatch, Jr. 5 FW-190s dest + 1 prob + 1 dam
2/Lt. Rudolph M. Janci, Jr. Me-109 dest + FW-190 ? dest
2/Lt. Ralph W. Hisey U/I TE aircraft (Do-217?) dest
1/Lt. Carl C. Hoenshell FW-190 dest + 2 Do-217s dest
?/Lt. Willie B. Flack U/I TE aircraft (Do-217?) dest
?/Lt. John J. Shepard 2 Do-217s dest + FW 190 dam

94 FS
1/Lt. John H. Allen CR.42 dest
1/Lt. Harley T. Barlow Do-217 dest
?/Lt. Hugh B. Crandall Do-217 dest
2/Lt. Chester H. Heien CR.42 dest
2/Lt. Everett Miller Fi-156 dest + 2 CR.42s dest

82 FG
Lt/Col. Ben A. Mason Me-110 dest

96 FS
Maj. Herbert L. Phillips biplane prob
1/Lt. Merrill M. Adelson Me-109 dest + SE fighter dest
1/Lt. John W. Sognier Me-109 dest
2/Lt. Walter J. Carroll, Jr. Me-109 prob
2/Lt. Arthur W. Kidder, Jr. Me-109 dam

97 FS
2/Lt. William H. Jefferson SE biplane dest
2/Lt. John P. McMonegal Me-109 dest
2/Lt. Leroy L. Lette Hs-126 dest

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Tom
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