Missing Short Stirling over Poland?

[Stig Jarlevik]

Originally Posted by FrankieS

Stalin tasked Tuppavare with cloning the Stirling and Soviet industry was to produce 47 copies of the aircraft in just two years. The three Stirlings were flown to Moscow and delivered into Tuppavare OKB. One Stirling was fully dismantled, down to the smallest bolt, the second was used for flight tests and training, and the third one was left as a standard for cross-reference.
FrankieS

This cannot be correct
By the time the single Sterling arrived to USSR nobody wanted it. It had departed from UK
in Feb 1945 and arrived via Iraq in March. (SOC by RAF in March 1945)

It was more or less dumped into the hands of the Polar Aviation Division and when a British mission
arrived to help with the introduction during the Spring 1946 it was finally taken into service,
but little used.

What was Tuppaware OKB? Never heard of it. Why would anyone build 47 useless Sterlings postwar?
Makes no sense what so ever.

Cheers
Stig

[udf_00]

https://www.key.aero/forum/historic-...ling-in-russia :
"The Tuv-75P was a planned produce cargo development using non-strategic materials, with high content of plastics in its construction, based on a Soviet theory of keeping produce fresh by storage in plastics."

keeping produce fresh by storage in plastics courtesy of Tuppa'ware : don't you get it brotha' ????

[Stig Jarlevik]

Originally Posted by udf_00

https://www.key.aero/forum/historic-...ling-in-russia :
"The Tuv-75P was a planned produce cargo development using non-strategic materials, with high content of plastics in its construction, based on a Soviet theory of keeping produce fresh by storage in plastics."

keeping produce fresh by storage in plastics courtesy of Tuppa'ware : don't you get it brotha' ????

Jesus what crap on that site.
Tuppa'ware is Tupolev and the "47 Tuv-4" are presumably Tu-4 of which a lot
more than 47 was built (1296 to be exact)
It had nothing to do with the Sterling what so ever (being a B-29 copy)
The Tuv-75P was the Tu-75 of which one was built
Not a single source mentions any derivative called Tu-75P. Can I have a Russian source for that please?
Cheers
Stig

[Blitz45]

Welcome after a long absence. I came across a claim by pilot Leopold ‘Poldi’ Fellererz of the 5th Staffel of Nachtjaggeschwader 2 that on 29.03.1942 at 01:02 he reported shooting down a Stirling in PQ 75884, which matches the presumed location of my fall . Which I don't think can be true, however, as the only suspect from that day https://asn.flightsafety.org/wikibas...TFNxpsgdE6QEGA
returned happily to its base. Can someone please verify, clarify this information about quadrant PQ75884?

[Chris Goss]

Location was sea 20km SW Helgoland according to Theo Boiten but W7507 got back to base

[Blitz45]

Originally Posted by Chris Goss

Location was sea 20km SW Helgoland according to Theo Boiten but W7507 got back to base

Thank you Chris for the quick reply, that means it's all clear, a mistake in the numbers So we keep looking.

[Blitz45]

I'm starting to run out of ideas http://www.harringtonmuseum.org.uk/w...Operations.pdf

[Blitz45]

Based on the numbers that are on this part, am I able to determine this Stirling? The only sensible number on this part is: R2371.
Others: 9292902 , 92992901, 9292551,
60MF
There is a V on the top of the screws

[Blitz45]

circular punches HCM62

[Blitz45]

It was created at Short Brothers, mark I May 1940 to May 1943. Can you establish where it went?