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Old 10th September 2026, 22:15
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Re: Kurt Rochel

What did Kurt Rochel did after WWII?

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Old 11th September 2026, 11:52
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There are no victories for 5./ZG26 on May 14,1940...no victory for Rochel

The first victories of 5./ZG26 date from May 15,1940 (3) during a mission against Namur around 14.00-14.30
Rochel=1
probably Fritz Herber (with reference to the decoration awaeded on May 19;Iron Cross 2nd Class for 1 to 3 victories)

A single victory for 5./ZG26 on June 1st against Dunkirk around 16h
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Victim of Rochel:609 Sqn Spitfire L1058 F/O I B N Russell (shot down by Bf.110),no other claims by Bf.110

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Old 11th September 2026, 12:19
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Hard to say if he got Russell as nobody saw him being shot down. There was another claim by Oblt Jürgen Moeller of 2./ZG 1 who collided with a Spitfire possibly from 222 Sqn
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There are no victories for 5./ZG26 on May 14,1940...no victory for Rochel
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Since II./ZG 26 was in heavy combat against the French on the 14th, who DID claim on that day?

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All I can see are 18 claims by III Gruppe on 14 May 40 but how accurate this is I cannot
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All I can see are 18 claims by III Gruppe on 14 May 40 but how accurate this is I cannot
I only checked Cornwell and his The Battle of France then & now. Is he wrong?

Roba in his Le III./ZG 26 says 19 claims were made between 13.00 - 13.45H,
but only lists 13 of them in detail.
Later in the day he adds four more claims at about 19.45H

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Old 12th September 2026, 09:20
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Moeller's "claim" took place in the morning around 7.h (10 victories by I./ZG1)

According Red 2 (F/O Edge):Russell was attacked and hit by a Me.110 (Patrol over Dunkirk from 14.45/15.45)...he was last seen spiralling down

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Agreed-Paul Edge wrote an account post-war which is in my re-write of 609's history
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