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Old 21st March 2005, 01:29
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Re: Kozhedub and P-51s

Da, Mihail, dumaju shto Ty videl mnozhe chem ja but if Mr Stankov is correct and Kozhedub fired at a B-17, this may be well the incident I have description of. At least it was done by Lavkas.
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Old 21st March 2005, 19:27
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Re: Kozhedub and P-51s

I saw one document described one of those 'B-17' incidents. That was a combat report from the soviet fighter patrol leader. In brief : Soviet patrol (4 Yaks as I remember) encountered a crippled B17 bomber and started to cover it, but suddenly a pair of 190s (damn 'hunters') picked from the clouds, shot down the bomber and then quickly went out by deep picking... But survived crew members of B17 reported that Yaks shot down them...

/Sorry, that's not my theme so I didn't copy that document and saying this now by my memory only/
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Old 21st March 2005, 19:51
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He who has patience will see in a future Black Cross/Red Star volume. There are some quite interesting U.S. reports. Kozhedub? That remains to be clarified.

Volume 3 of Black Cross/Red Star will be out soon. Check the link below.
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Old 21st March 2005, 20:56
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Re: Kozhedub and P-51s

Mihail
One B-24 was downed by Soviet aircraft near Łódź and definetelly there were no German aircraft involved. Here is the link http://www.samoloty.ow.pl/str140.htm, where the story is mentioned (in Polish).
The combat I have written about previously, involved two La, Mustang escorts and a B-17, it occured in March 1945.
After some correspondence with a son of a Soviet pilot I am not so sure anymore they were unintentional.
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Old 21st March 2005, 23:39
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Re: Kozhedub and P-51s

Christer,

If you mention Vol.3 once more you owe me a copy!!

All that free advertising, its ridiculous

Actually preordered mine with Eagle Ltd, so just kidding...well sort of, anyway.

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Old 22nd March 2005, 11:33
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Re: Kozhedub and P-51s

Over Hungary was shot down another viermot by Soviet fighters.
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Old 22nd March 2005, 17:33
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Re: Kozhedub and P-51s

This story is also described in English in M.Vestisk's book - "Lavockin La-7". Acording to the book Kozhedub was ordered by his regiment commander P. Chupikov not to talk about this incident against P-51Ds and he was given the film from the gun camera. The film is said to being made public by his wife after his death. Is it true? No idea - it may be a tale...
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This story is also described in English in M.Vestisk's book - "Lavockin La-7". Acording to the book Kozhedub was ordered by his regiment commander P. Chupikov not to talk about this incident against P-51Ds and he was given the film from the gun camera. The film is said to being made public by his wife after his death. Is it true? No idea - it may be a tale...
It's a translated fragment from the N.Bodrikhin's book 'Soviet Aces'. That book is not so bad, but based mainly on pilot's memoires, not documents . ...
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