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Old 13th April 2007, 02:20
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Re: "Göring a biography" by David Irving

There was also a famous Cambridge five.
I can comment only on Mare's Nest, and the book is not bad, but as he did not contact any Poles engaged in spying of the weapons (living in England at the time), the overall view is seriously distorted. In my opinion, this has nothing to Irving's political views, just quality of his work. That said, I have seen several worser books, even nonsenses written by renowned professors, so the scientific title means nothing for me, at least in regard of history.
The real problem with Irving is that he has chosen wrong socialist to defend. There are hundreds on similar books about communism, but they do not cause any concern, being politically correct.
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Re: "Göring a biography" by David Irving

Irving is the one who propagated the myth of Dresden, stating bluntly and with no evidence available that US escort fighters strafed the population. He also gave a wantonly distorted number of casualties among civilians.
He sort of wanted to prove that the Western Allies were as savage as the Germans.
His writings must be read with great caution. Caveat emptor, as English-speaking people use to say.

He is not welcome in France where laws are very drastic against the negationists.
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Re: "Göring a biography" by David Irving

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The real problem with Irving is that he has chosen wrong socialist to defend. There are hundreds on similar books about communism, but they do not cause any concern, being politically correct.
Franek, if you'll please read the Holocaust Denial on Trial site you'll see that being "politically correct" is NOT what the problem was or is. The issue is entirely about Irving's treatment of historical source material and the History on Trial site gives numerous specific and readily checkable examples of how his books have departed from evidence on which he claimed to have been relying.

Deborah Lipstadt criticised Irving's scholarship. He sued her for libel. In the court case the he initiated, his methods were taken apart in great detail by people whose record of scholarship suggests they should be listened to.

I say it again, read the evidence on the HDOT site. The examples given there go back to "The Destruction of Dresden" and "The Destruction of Convoy PQ 17" (the latter led to court case brought by a former Royal Navy officer - Irving lost that one too), so the questions over his methods were never just related to the Nazi extermination programme.
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