USAAF Claims 25th February 1944

[drgondog]

Stephane- you are right of course.

However, Frankie stated he was looking for claims near Muhldorf and only Gumm's damaged claim matches up for any Me 109 claim by a Mustang on that day. And of course bombers could have shot him down.

Regards,

Bill

[Stephane Muret]

Frankie,

I dont know but perhaps the Bom Groups involved in the mission have a website where you could ask them about gunners' claims for this day . Looking for an air gunner kill is really very difficult because sometimes lot of them claimed for the same plane...

Good luck.

Stef

[FrankieS]

Thank you Stephane,
... yes very difficult indeed.

Will be a lot of research and possibly never to be solved.
Have emailed the german communal administration
of the crash site to get some more info on
circumstances (exact time of crash, maybe eyewitness
accounts of air battle in the local archives ... if I'm
very lucky ;-) )

bye then
FrankieS

[drgondog]

If you are going to check Bomb Groups I suspect you should look to 15th AF coming from south to Munich.

The 8th AF 3rd Division bombed Regensburg and the 1st Division bombed Augsburg. Neither route should have taken them over Munich and certainly not to the east of Munich.

Regards,

Bill

PS
I would still place my initial bet on Gumm even though he claimed only a damaged.. hits could have severely wounded the pilot but not hard enough to prevent an 'escape'.

On the other hand if you can find the 25 Feb Mission map for 15th AF and the track is on east side or directly over Munich there is an equal probability that he was shot down by them.