Clostermann shot down?

[Franek Grabowski]

Adriano, the story of Lucky 13 is a bogus to the best my knowledge. It does not change the fact in some circumstances airmen were able to provide astonishing details about their opponents.
CJE, then it is a different matter, but I am afraid we will not learn the entire truth in the nearest future. I am wondering if his family had pre-war ties with de Gaulle, but perhaps it will be more convenient to discuss it via email.
Chris, you are absolutelly correct, but if we want to dismiss such a story we should not refer only to ORB. Perhaps this is a simple case of mistaken dates - 12-21 - but it could be more complicated. As I have noted, Clostermann's log book is in a museum, so it should have an entry for 20 or 21 April. I cannot believe the ace would invent a story of being beaten up by Germans if this had never happened. Otherwise you do not mention Opflash Reports nor Authorisation Books, those being more primary sources.