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Old 24th June 2007, 16:59
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Re: QU+PN fake or real

Hi peter

The Stkz for the Me 323E-1 DU+PA to PO; W/Nr.130041 to 130055

Regarding the use of Q in the Stkz sequences is a mistake/typos/errors and for the He 219 a postwar addition to an original foto/painting of that a/c.(I think? I cannot get to my books at present but I have seen something very similar)

The letter O was used as a simplified use of the pre-war civil regs. I have many fotos of the use of E & O for early & mid 1940 and at least 1 as late as 1944

Can you give a list of your Qs and i will try and give you possible corrections or answers

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Old 24th June 2007, 17:27
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Re: QU+PN fake or real

Tom,
Are you sure about the "Q"not being used? In Focke Wulf, by Rodeike, page 258 there is a picture of VQ+VC, Fw190A7 642545.
I also found:
BH+QQ 1478 Ju88A4
GA+QQ 10200023 He177V102
GQ+QN 190 Ar196
NN+QQ 535550 He177V101
NQ+MQ 110619 Me262A-1a
RQ+QN 131300 Ju52/3m8ge

If you are right I have made a lot of typing errors.

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Old 24th June 2007, 17:37
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Re: QU+PN fake or real

All the Q?+?? codes mentioned by Peter can be found as part of the LEMB Sktz Database Project, a direct to link to which can be found below:

http://www.luftwaffe-experten.org/stam-q.html

As for a He219A-7 coded QT+NY, there is nothing listed that is anywhere near this in the "Other Known Werknummern or Signs" of "Heinkel He219, An Illustrated History" by Roland Remp [Schiffer, 2000]. The image in "Luftwaffe Combat Aircraft of Hitlers luftwaffe 1939-1945" appears to be a heavily retouched wartime photo...

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Old 24th June 2007, 19:33
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Re: QU+PN fake or real

Hi Dennis

I think you have the wrong end of the stick. I should have made it clear that the Q is the lead letter.

eg: QU+PN as in the title 'QU+PN fake or real'

The letter Q was used in all other sequence letters; 2nd, 3rd & 4th

Hope this makes it clear

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Old 24th June 2007, 21:42
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Ok Tom,
I get it now.

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Old 25th June 2007, 00:38
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Re: QU+PN fake or real

Thank you all.

I delete all stuff beginning with Q in the updated base

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Old 26th June 2007, 00:24
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For Tom

the list begining wrong with Q

QA+BJ Dornier Do17
QA+ET Messerschmitt Bf109
QA+JZ Messerschmitt Bf109
QB+BC Focke Wulf Fw58
QD+XP Arado Ar232 B-010 W.Nr.110032
QE+A6 Messerschmitt Bf110
QH+K? Fieseler Fi156 C-1
QJ+NY Fieseler Fi156
QJ+RW Fieseler Fi156 D-1
QK+NL Fieseler Fi156 C-3
QM+DK Fieseler Fi156 F-1
QM+YH Fieseler Fi156
QP+NB Messerschmitt Bf108
QT+AE Junkers Ju52 /3m
QU+KH Dornier Do17 M
QU+KM Dornier Do17 M
QV+IW Messerschmitt Me262 W.Nr.000167

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Old 26th June 2007, 14:16
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Re: QU+PN fake or real

Hey Peter

make an attempt and replace all the first letter "Q" with letter "G" and I think, you will be found a lot of agreement.

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