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Old 16th August 2007, 01:02
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Re: Henschel HS-123

rldunn, I am a Chinese, and I study chinese history, and I knew the statement "it did supply numerous aircraft accessories, parts and equipment" is wrong, come on ! because lack of part, only 3 of 6 He-111A0 could be committed into combat in 1937, the other 3 had to be stripped for parts ! and compared to the military aid chinese received from Soviet, Germany was NO LONGER the major military supplier after 1938, if you like, I could give you a list what Chinese received from Russia after 1938.
By the way, USA was not a major military supplier for China in 1939, their role would became overwhelming important after 1942, so why compare them to Germans in 1939 ? though it was very interesting to know that Chinese still received German weapons from Burma, a British Colony,in Sep/Oct 1939, after WWII broke out in Europe, what is your source ?
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Old 16th August 2007, 01:24
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Re: Henschel HS-123

Come on indeed. The data support my previous posts. If the 'right' parts did not get to China that's too bad but the export data clearly shows Germany exported much aviation material to China. China often hoarded supplies rather than using them due to internal rivalries. I don't know if that is the case with the He 111's. They were basically poor early versions of that a/c palmed off on the CAF by the Germans. Please don't use such generalizations when factual data exists that is contrary. You may not know the facts but that is no reason to deny them.

You may wish to research details on exports from Germany to China before making sweeping assertions. I've given you the hints if you are open-minded enough to accept them.

I note you didn't challenge the assertion that Germany remained a major arms supplier in 1939 once I provided some data to that effect. Rest assured similar data exists with regard to aviation supplies. Believe what you will (or do the research yourself!).

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Old 4th November 2007, 21:14
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Re: Henschel HS-123

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The text about Hs 123 in China was edited in Militaria i Fakty, Polish magazine, earlier was edited in France - Air Magazine. It was a little corrected by me during translation into Polish. The main aim of the author was to show the route/hsitory of the plane from Germany to China with this type, with some information about German personel in China. There are no so many info about it use in ChAF, some info, which are there are taken form Chinse sources but it is a few information.

Henschel Hs 123 in China.Henschel Hs 123 w Chinach (translations of the text written by Rudolf Hőfling - Austria), p. 3, 5 b&w photos, [in:] Militaria i Fakty 2 (27)/2005.

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Old 4th November 2007, 21:44
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Re: Henschel HS-123

Some next coments.
This text in Chinese web side with some photos of Hs 123, had been written most probably with the support of French version written by Rudolf Hofling material. If I am rith the firs edition of it was in French Air Magazine no 23, (Jan 2005). At least 5 photos on the web are the same as in this French text, and also the same with four photos in Polish version. Rudolf had an acces to previous not yet edited photos, which were published the first time exactly in his text.

I have done an error about this Wydawnictwo Militria no 4. I do not know this a book, or a text (?).
The color of Chinese Hs 123s on the Chinses web side is not good, if you look at the photos printed below or above. Pure fiction.

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