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Old 28th August 2007, 18:34
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Re: 7th and 14th July 1944, 15th USAAF fighters claims vs. Me 410

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My source is 'Me 410 in Combat' by K. Janowicz. I think that author make an mistake with 8th July clash, when in fact I./ZG 76 lost eight Me 410s due to 82nd FG Lightnings. It's odd that 8th July combat is mention in "Me 410 in combat" and eight ZG 76 losses to.

Erich, Did you know something about I./ZG 26 losses on 7th July ? 8th USAAF fighter pilots claimed 21.5 Me 410s shot down, it will be huge overclaiming. In "Me 410 in combat" I found information that ZG 26 lost 16 Me 410s that day, but it can be typo for "6" cause book is full of errors.

Its can by interesting for you that except Capt. Jim Morris P-38, USAAF lost in combat with Me 410 also two P-51B. According great "Fighter Units & Pilots of the 8th Air Force' book by Keneth D. Miller:
Lt. J. M. Scally (334th FS/4th FG) collided with Me 410 near Nordhausen, POW,
Lt. H. M. Huish (354th FS/355th FG) hit by debris from Me 410 near Halle, KIA.
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Old 28th August 2007, 18:52
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Re: 7th and 14th July 1944, 15th USAAF fighters claims vs. Me 410

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Thanks for answers.

My source is 'Me 410 in Combat' by K. Janowicz. I think that author make an mistake with 8th July clash, when in fact I./ZG 76 lost eight Me 410s due to 82nd FG Lightnings. It's odd that 8th July combat is mention in "Me 410 in combat" and eight ZG 76 losses to.

Erich, Did you know something about I./ZG 26 losses on 7th July ? 8th USAAF fighter pilots claimed 21 Me 410s shot down, it will be huge overclaiming. In "Me 410 in combat" I found information that ZG 26 lost 16 Me 410s that day, but it can be typo for "6" cause book is full of errors.

Its can by interesting for you that except Capt. Jim Morris P-38, USAAF lost in combat with Me 410 also two P-51B. According great "Fighter Units & Pilots of the 8th Air Force' book by Keneth D. Miller:
Lt. J. M. Scally (334th FS/4th FG) collided with Me 410 near Nordhausen, POW,
Lt. H. M. Huish (354th FS/355th FG) hit by debris from Me 410 near Halle, KIA.
Heber Huish flying Kinnard's wing, flew into an engine from a 410 that Kinnard blew up. The 355th claimed 13 and were awarded 11 Me 410's for July 7 between the 354 and 357FS.

I read each of the encounter reports and there isn't much doubt that these a/c were destroyed - either blown up or fire balls, or wing separating..possibly Ju 88s were mis identified as 410s..

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Old 28th August 2007, 19:14
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Re: 7th and 14th July 1944, 15th USAAF fighters claims vs. Me 410

according the to the listing from Freiburg I see only II./ZG 26 losses nothing for I. gruppe or III./ZG 26

for the 8th of July I have 8 losses from I./ZG 76, nothing from the other 2 gruppen.

granted there just might be some pages missing in someway from my lists. anyone else care to add ?

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