B-17's

[petewenman]

From the Middlebrook book

For the Bad Kissengen aircraft
B-17 42-30139 Snuffy, 545th Sqd, 384th BG, damaged by Schweinfurt flak, finished off by fighter attack. crashed at Stangenroth 10km NW Bad Kissengen.
Pilot 2nd Lt Oliver Sweningsen, S/Sgt Richard S Grover, 2nd Lt Victor T Kelly killed

I suspect for the second aicraft you mean Elfershausen, if so.
B-17 42-30191 The Bolevich, 525th Sqd, 379th BG, but flying as part of 103rd CG, fighter attack and Flak, crashed at Elfershausen 10km SW Bad Kissingen.
Pilot Lt Donald W Merchant, with T/Sgt Gene R Hecht killed.

Pete