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Old 29th November 2007, 15:38
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Re: MACR 6171

Alright, let’s check some Hungarian police crash reports (telegrams) for June 26, 1944:

„Tét (Hu, near the city of Győr,-SW): a four engined bomber has been shot down in a dogfight. The plane crashed 4-5 km away from Újmalomsok (now between Malomsok and Tét) and burned out. 8 crewmembers bailed out and got captured. ” or:

„Somorja (now: Samorin, Slo.) A four engined bomber crashed in an aerial battle. 8 crewmen bailed out. 3 of them were captured by the Hungarian Police, 5 by the Slovaks.” or:

„Mosonszolnok (Hu): A bomber crashed. 2 crewmen got captured, the rest is still hiding.” or:

„Nagymegyer (now: Calovo, Slo): 7 enemy flyers bailed out and got captured.” - doesn’t mention plane crash, only bail outs!!!! or:

„Four engined (enemy) bombers crashed at the (Hungarian) villages of Sótóny, Fertőszentmiklós, Tormáspuszta and Káptalanfa. 8 crewmen where captured. One parachute failed to open. He died.” – This telegram doesn’t mention the name of the village where these people got captured or died. or:

„Szentimrefalva (Hu, North of Lake Balaton): A four engined enemy bomber crashed in the morning. 10 crewmen bailed out and ALL got captured.” – this is the one mentioned at Káptalanfa in the other telegram, because it was the next village to it. Probably 2 different police stations reported the same event.

There are also reports for Nagyacsád (Hu) and for Balozsameggyes (Hu), etc., but those are all identified.

See, there were so many crashes in Hungary this day, which were all wrongly reported to Austria, and other countries. (This was a common mistake through 1944-45.)


Lost 15th AAF bombers on June 26, 1944 with identified crash sites, or crashes which most likely are NOT linked to the mentioned reports:

S/N: Group:

41-28777 98
42-31482 301
42-31701 301
44-40091 376
41-29221 450
41-29253 451
42-64450 451
42-50312 454
42-52265 454
41-29261 455
41-29570 455
42-52230 455
42-52238 455
42-52241 455
42-52249 455
42-78167 455
42-78292 455
42-95462 455
42-99771 455
41-28638 456
42-52233 456
42-52275 456
41-28674 459
41-28679 461
42-50401 464
42-95451 464
42-52702 485
42-94740 484


Potential cases where the planes COULD BE the ones, mentioned in the crash reports at Tét-Újmalomsok and Szentimrefalva-Káptalanfa. I basically would like to identify these two. So:

42-52297 454
42-51174 459
42-95300 459
41-28839 460
42-52538 460
42-78245 460
41-29491 485

Not an easy job. Any idea? The number of POWs might help...etc. Thanks,

Gabor
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