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Old 2nd January 2008, 03:53
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Re: 1941 Hungarian Air Force Tunic Tag help?

OK,

Here are pics of the tunic with the tag. Let me start off by saying I started by purchasing this set (hat + tunic) to have an Hungarian NCO flight uniform. Some of the items on the set were fake, some were real but inaccurate. I am trying to restore what I can. I will not what I think is real or not, added or not as I go.

Let's start with the overall tunic. A standard NCO tunic in army color ranked to a Sgt. There was a wing on the right pocket but it was an NCO cap badge in silver stitched to make the wings straight vs. curved. The thing is, there was no NCO silver flight badge. There was only one pilot badge, in gold, and both officers and NCOs wore the same wing. Only their curved wing cap badges were gold or silver.



Next is the collars. When I bought the tunic, it had one collar device. I have since purchased a pair and sewn them on:








Now the ribbons. These came with the tunic. I think they are original to the period but not to the tunic based on the stitching:










Here is a shot of the right pocket where I removed the erroneous wing. There are two loops, but for what:



One final shot:

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Re: 1941 Hungarian Air Force Tunic Tag help?

Here is the board:

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Re: 1941 Hungarian Air Force Tunic Tag help?

And here is the hat that I was sold with the tunic:

Nice idea as a senior sgt. beret but I think with some "help". What do you think? I think the ribbon around the edge is completely false. I think the triangle is probably not the right fabric. The eagle device? I have no idea. I think the hat itself is perfectly fine...





Now the reverse of the eagle:





And the label inside the hat:

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Re: 1941 Hungarian Air Force Tunic Tag help?

Tod,

you can build a nice szakaszvezető (Senior Corporal) from this uniform, but not a Sergeant. This tunic and hat were not used by the Sergeants and above level NCO's, only by the Private-Senior Corporal grade. The situation is the same with the hat as well (the Sergeants used already an officer style hat)

The Signum was an officer award, not for NCO's. You should remove the replica ribbon of the 1941/42 Winterschlacht im Osten? medal as well.

IMHO the best if you are remove the Sergeant epaulettes and build a Senior Corporal from this stuff.
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Re: 1941 Hungarian Air Force Tunic Tag help?

Here is a picture from my new book about a MSgt, you can see the difference between the uniforms.

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