Loss date He 111H-3, Wnr 5682, 3./Kgr100

[anderbe]

Hans, if you have a look at this page http://ktsorens.tihlde.org/flyvrak/mortensjord.html

To me that plate does look like having 5682 stamped, and it was lost 1940-05-29.

Anders

[Hans Nauta]

Hello Anders,

Interesting contribution! I'm not quite sure if this type plate actually represents the real Wnr of the Heinkel, as different Wnr were also used for different parts of an aircraft. I've a typeplate of a recovered Bf 109 with Wnr which proved to be the Wnr of a part of the wing and not the aircraft itself...

However, I'm not an expert on this and I trust somebody on this Board may help us with this matter.

Of course there's also the possibility that the type plate is the correct one and I've an incorrect Wnr of the Heinkel of the initial question in my files!

Best regards,
Hans Nauta

[RT]

5682 hv been damaged above England on 6.sept. 40 flying for I.KG26...

Rémi

[flyvrak]

I've made a larger version of the typeplate here:
http://ktsorens.tihlde.org/flyvrak/mortensjord-05.jpg

Hopefully some of the experts on this forum will be able to say if this is the aircrafts werkenummer, or just a parts serial number.

regards Kjell

[edNorth]

Hello Kjell & others;

There was indeed W.Nr. 5682 made by ATG in late 1939 - Stkz. TU+AH - and was first flown at Leipzig-Mockau Airfield 21 January 1940. L may stand for Lizenz but usually this was not stamped in this way (so it may come from left wing - so may also be part plate!) Just out of curiosity I looked up the Gu.Qu.6Abt. losses 26.06.41 and 5682 is indeed the reported number on H-3 6N+KL stated lost (Chatan) 24.06.

Giving an opinium; The number in 6. Abt. could have an typing (writing) error included - I personally have found out that apx. 1 to 2% of the numbers in G.Qu.6.Abt. records have ´duplicates´ - but as RT pointed out, 6N+KL might have had part from the real 5682 fitted sometime in 1940 (or some parts becoming mixed up in final assembly). I´d stick with the one in Norway as 5682 unless proven otherwise. Maybe the planned survey of all sea-wrecks around Britain will turn up the remains of 6N+KL and reveal its true number.

cheers
ed

[steve sheridan]

A very interesting post so far.

Ed can you please tell more about the proposed survey of sea wrecks,
this is the first time i have heard of this.

Regards,
Steve.