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1st February 2008, 00:46
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Re: Soviet Air force
Ok, I see. I hope telling the facts to You is not the same thing as trying prove somewhat to Pilawski = it is easier to bite the moon
 I want polite and gentle discussion.Ok. Just a simply reply. Pilawski is an "author" of so called "acid VVS colors". And color profiles You mentioned are based on his "colors". To imagine the "level" of knowledge (and the depth of researching the object) of "GURU", we can look here just 2 simple examples: Quote:
This is Il-2 AM38F, from 16 VA, in propaganda flight over Berlin, April 1945. Several photos were taken, all shown in links below. To make more “moral effect”, photograph just simply “edited” one of photo “for newspaper”, adding white arrow and furious “Mstitel” (Avenger). http://pics.livejournal.com/bersrk/pic/0000d1hd http://pics.livejournal.com/bersrk/pic/0000c914 http://pics.livejournal.com/bersrk/pic/0000brzs http://pics.livejournal.com/bersrk/pic/0000asat Result: http://pics.livejournal.com/bersrk/pic/0000f64p Il-2’s, presented on that photos, are painted in standard NKAP-43 scheme. It just cannot be in “two colored” scheme (as Erik claim) because average life of Il-2 was short, even it was not shot up or damaged. Just because of wooden details were damaged by water/sunlight. Il-2 “two-colored”, built in late1942 to mid 1943 could not survive so long life. Easy. Elements of NKAP-43 are seen on right wing of this Il-2 from 16 VA: http://pics.livejournal.com/bersrk/pic/0000edk8 Twotone scheme was AMT 4 and AMT 6, but not AII lacquers (used before 1941). There were no Braun color in VVS. Quote:
http://vvs.hobbyvista.com/DigitalMod...un07/jun07.htm Photos here: http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachmen...8&d=1160603797 http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachmen...0&d=1160603797 All mistakes are the same. Broun colour (never used in VVS), two-tone scheme instead of NKAP-43. This seems MORE closer: http://forum.sukhoi.ru/attachment.ph...2&d=1173089698 “Za Leningrad!” was not the only aircraft in that regiments. It was a series, gift, bought on money from Leningrad citizens. As showed: http://forum.sukhoi.ru/attachment.ph...4&d=1173089698 2: about colors: This is original VVS colors. Compare “Acid light-green” by Erik Pilawskii and green AMT-4 or blackgreen AMT-6 on this photos: http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachmen...1&d=1170922123 http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachmen...4&d=1172933690 http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachmen...5&d=1172933690 http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachmen...6&d=1172933690 http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachmen...7&d=1172933690 http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachmen...8&d=1172933690 http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachmen...9&d=1172933859 http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachmen...0&d=1172933859 http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachmen...1&d=1172933859 http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachmen...2&d=1172933859 http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachmen...3&d=1172933859 3. About Il-2:FB flight sim. This game gave many modelers ability to have some kind of “virtual models”. Of coarse, when we painting a skin (paintscheme) for game, we gather ALL known information about aircraft. And screenshot from game is the same as photo image of real model. Best wishes!
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