414 NFS claims

[James A Pratt III]

Below is a list of claims for the 414th NFS can anyone match them up with a known loss ect.

Italy/Med Beaufighters
27 Jul 43 Water S82
29 Jul 43 Holig S82
18 Aug 43 Smith Ju88 crew POW
26 Nov 43 Clark He177 KG40
23 Jan 44 Anderson Do217 "in flames"
23 Jan 44 George He177 4/KG40
6 Aug 44 Patterson Ju88 KG77

[James A Pratt III]

part 2 P61 victories
date pilot plane type uint ect

23 Dec 44 Jones Ju87 NSGr 9
France
4 Feb 45 Goodrich Ju88 "seen to hit ground on fire"
7 Apr 45 Jones 410
8 Apr 45 Jones Ju88
9 Apr 45 Lutz Ju188 2 POWs from either this or Jones 8 Apr claim Lutz was flying a Mosquito
10 Apr Greenfield Ju52

[Nick Beale]

Originally Posted by James A Pratt III

Below is a list of claims for the 414th NFS can anyone match them up with a known loss ect.

Italy/Med Beaufighters
6 Aug 44 Patterson Ju88 KG77

Possibly this is the 6./KG 77 aircraft referred to in ADI(K) 440A/1944: a Ju 88A-4 shot down by a Beaufighter at 10.59 hours [sic] on 6 August, 5 miles NW of Ajaccio while on FuG 200 recce from Istres. Crew members were:

FF Uffz. Walter Pabst MIA
BO Uffz. Hermann Stoerze WIA
BF Lt. Heinz von Frank Unhurt
BS Uffz. Wilhelm Schulz WIA

Survivors in allied captivity.

Monitoring of radio traffic from German aircraft that night revealed that seven of KG 77 or KG 26 were active from 23.40-04.59; four of KG 77 from 23.45-05.09.

50 miles north east of Ajaccio, Corsica (4206N, 0745E) at 01.55 local time (time given as "midnight" by a signals intelligence unit which logged times in GMT) a reconnaissance Ju 88 was attacked by the Beaufighter of Capt. John E. Patterson and Lt. Roy E. Patten of 414th Night Fighter Squadron, USAAF, operating under the control of "FOODSHOP". The Ju 88's starboard engine exploded at low level, the aircraft hit the water and was destroyed.

[Six Nifty .50s]

I wouldn't be surprised if Walter Pabst was a distant relative of the Pabst family in America (best known for their brewing empire).

[mhuxt]

Originally Posted by James A Pratt III

Lutz was flying a Mosquito

I realise this doesn't answer your question but, do you have any information re: the Mosquito? (Was it a 416th NFS machine? Serial number? etc?)

[James A Pratt III]

Lutz's Mosquito was SZ998 SM-V. Anyone have any more info on these losses? Keep up the good work Nick I like your books and site. Do you have anything else in the works?

[Nick Beale]

Originally Posted by James A Pratt III

Keep up the good work Nick I like your books and site. Do you have anything else in the works?

(1) Thank you.

(2) Various stuff is in the works for the site, some very soon but the more insanely ambitious ideas may take a little/lot longer.

Books, I don't really know. I have all kinds of raw material to work on but can't tell yet what any particular strand might add up to. Now if I didn't have to spend so much time earning a living ...

[Franek Grabowski]

Originally Posted by James A Pratt III

Lutz's Mosquito was SZ998 SM-V. Anyone have any more info on these losses? Keep up the good work Nick I like your books and site. Do you have anything else in the works?

James
What is your source? The problem is that SZ998 SM-J was lost with S/L Hanbury & F/L Hart on 6/7 April, while on 8/9 April W/O Everson & Sgt Ruud were downed by a P-61 while flying NT187 SM-V. I assume Lutz flew a borrowed 305 Sqn aircraft, and it would have been a real irony if Jones downed an aircraft from the very same Squadron!

[Kutscha]

How did Lutz come to be flying a Mossie FB VI of RAF #305?

I have 305 based at Esinoy/Cambrai and 414 based at Strassfeld, Germany at that time.

[mhuxt]

Thanks James.

I have to agree with the previous two posters though, it strikes me as far more likely that Lutz's Mosquito is the one he shot down, not the one he flew! I also have SM-V as NT187.

Don't know if this link still works:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/ww2/A3130426

Edit - Well, it does and it doesn't. You have to input the A3130... etc part into the "Search the archive" box to get to Reg Everson's story.