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Old 4th April 2008, 22:18
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Re: JG 5 Theo Weißenbergers 100th victory

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Hi Horst.

According to my research Weissenberger and his mates in 6./JG 5 had a few Bf 109F-4s and the G-2/R-6 from January 1943 until July 1943 when the first G-6s appeared (and still continued to use the G-2 for some considerable time). If the individual number you quoted, "Yellow 4", is correct for the date mentioned (5. July 1943) I feel certain that it was his old G-2/R-6 inherited from 6. Staffel, especially as he took command of 7. Staffel only a few weeks earlier, on 15. June, if my sources are correct.

Are you absolutely sure that Weissenberger did not have underwing gondolas on his G-2 at the time indicated (June-July 1943)?? If you have a photo showing otherwise it would be very interesting to see it. Maybe this photo was taken after he claimed the victories you mentioned?

An alternative interpretation is that your photo actually show "White 4" (which would be appropriate for a 7. Staffel aircraft) as white and yellow can sometimes be hard to distinguish on black-and-white photos, especially within JG 5 which seem to have used a dirty white colour at times.

In any case, if the Abschussmeldung shows 3xMG 151 to have been used you can be sure that it featured underwing gondolas.

Hope this helps.

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Kjetil Aakra
Dear Kjetil,

all you mentioned makes now a sense for me. As mentioned before, my sideview of Weißenbergers 109 G-2 "Yellow 4" doesn't show the gondolas.

Yellow was an intermidiate colour of the 7. Staffel- before the call signs were white, correct what you say, but in the mid of 1943 the coulours went into yellow of the (later) 9. Staffel.

Thank you for clearing up this matter.
All the best, Horst
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Old 5th April 2008, 12:16
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Re: JG 5 Theo Weißenbergers 100th victory

Hi Horst.

Glad if I could help!

This side view you're talking about sure sounds interesting as I don't know of a full view of Weissenberger's G-2 from summer 1943 ever having been published. All I've seen is a pencil sketch in Girbig's JG 5 chronicle and that is full of errors, I suspect.

Is this the same Bf 109G-2 as that famous colour photo of Weissenberger's rudder showing 112 victories?

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