Ju88 Interception off Ireland, August 1942

[Tony Kearns]

Hi Steve,
Apologies for causing confusion. The Ju88 after leaving Brest routed into the Western Approaches, Georges Channel and Irish Sea as far as Barrow where the first interception took place by 315 Sqn. It was returning south through the Irish Sea when 41 Sqn. encountered it off the Kish Lightship. A permament lighthouse is now located at the site of the Kish Sandbank. It is clearly visible from Howth (Dublin), Bray and Greystones. The Ju88 was within the 3 mile territorial limit but not overland. 1 Staffel and 3 Staffel of F123 were frequent visitors to the Irish Sea and many observations were made from the Irish Coast as they used Tuskar Rock and Carnsore Point as nav aids. Not all were as lucky as this Ju88 to survive two attacks.
Regards, e mail to follow
tony K

[Steve Brew]

Hi Tony

Thanks for your reply. I am very interested in what you write and would like to discuss this further off board. I look forward to hearing from you in due course.

As an aside, it is interesting to note that documents I have obtained show 41 Squadron's pilots being award quarter shares in damaging the Ju88. It only became clear why with your post, and a subsequent check of Tony Woods' Allied Claims docs shows that the damaged Ju88 was actually shared with 315 Squadron, so half per unit, and 1/4 per pilot, even though the two units never saw each other!

Would you kindly share your sources with me and I am happy to share with you the documents I have.

I look forward to hearing from you

Regards
Steve

Steve Brew
London, UK
brew@clients.ch
The Pilots of 41 Squadron RAF, 1939-1945
http://brew.clients.ch/RAF41Sqdn.htm
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[Mark McShane]

I have another enquiry about an action over the Irish Sea, it is a couple of months later on December 15th 1942 (date could be between 14th-16th).

I do not know what units were involved, I just have information about ferry picking up four German pilots on the 15th and two RAF pilots on the 16th.

Could anybody provide any further information on how these men ended up ditching in the Irish Sea?

Regards,

Mark

[Brian Bines]

Hi Coldmeter,

I dont know if this helps I have a note that on 13-12-42 I(F)/33 lost two Ju88D-1s, The crew of Oblt Hassold was reported initially as missing but later rescued while the other crew of Ltn Flemming were missing in Pl.Qu. 7151. I have no more info. but perhaps someone could advise as to whether Oblt.Hassolds crew were the crew picked up by the ferry,

Regards

Brian Bines

[Tony Kearns]

Originally Posted by Coldmeter

I have another enquiry about an action over the Irish Sea, it is a couple of months later on December 15th 1942 (date could be between 14th-16th).

I do not know what units were involved, I just have information about ferry picking up four German pilots on the 15th and two RAF pilots on the 16th.

Could anybody provide any further information on how these men ended up ditching in the Irish Sea?

Regards,

Mark

Mark,
Would you have any idea which ferry was involved, Rosslare /Fishguard, Dublin /Holyhead or Belfast Larne/Stranraer?
Tony K

[Mark McShane]

Tony,

It was the Holyhead - Dublin ferry. Two of the German pilots died before they could be landed at Holyhead.

Regards,

Mark

[Chris Goss]

3/33 was operating in the Med in Dec 42-Hassold & his crew came down off Spain, were interned and later repatriated. I have the Luftwaffe reports for Dec 42 so will delve a little deeper

[Chris Goss]

Luftflotte 3 reported the loss of a "1/33" Ju 88 on 13 Dec. It had taken off at 0730 hrs and at 1005 hrs reported it was flying on one engine in Quad 4Ost/7115 headed 350 degrees at 100 metre. This was the Hassold crew so we can discount this. Nothing is apparent 14 Dec 42, 15 Dec or 17 Dec