Bf 109G-6 Stammkennzeichen T K + M B

[Dénes Bernád]

I don't know if you've noticed, but the new seller - who's style very much resembles a well-known Italian seller's - did post recently an additional view of (another?) machine, where the Stkz. appears to be T_+MB. However, the second letter appears to me rather an S and not a K.

Notice the yellow mid-fuselage ring, which is not present on the first photo...

[Rabe Anton]

Gruß Gott Veltro, Denés, and Steve!

Thank you all for your comments on the Bf 109G-6/AS with purported SKZ T K + M B. Nice response, folks!

My initial reaction to the source photos was identical to yours: Hey, this bird is probably one of those mysterious T S + M B critters that we can't yet identify (at least, I can't—for sure the several T S + M B examples known are NOT SKZ). But, figuring the eBay seller might know something, I posted my question. Thanks for confirming what I had suspected: Yeah, I think its virtually certainly T S + M B also.

RA

[David E. Brown]

Rabe,

Just to make your life a little interesting, below is a listing of the 16 aircraft known to have worn the "TS+MA and TS+MB Stammkennzeichen.

Previous discussions in several Luftwaffe Verband editions suggested that these markings reflected affiliations with several technical schools:

TS+MA: (Flieger) Technische Schule (6) Motor Bayreuth-Bindlach

TS+MB: (Flieger) Technische Schule (3) Motor München-Schleissheim

For the record, the following information comes from Jim Crow's photos and articles in the Luftwaffe Verband.

Cheers,

David

Bf 109 F-4, WNr.7551, TS+M_, Schleissheim, on airfield

Bf 109 G-6, WNr.2_576, TS+MB, north of München, in woods (small white Balkenkreuz)

Bf 109 G-6, WNr.?????, TS+MB, Schleissheim, in woods (white Balkenkreuz)

Bf 109 G-10?, WNr.??????, TS+MA, Schleissheim, in woods (white/black Balkenkreuz)

Bf 109 G-6, WNr.?????, TS+MB, Schleissheim, on airfield (white/black Balkenkreuz)

Bf 109 G-6/AS, WNr.??????, TS+MB, Schleissheim, on airfield (white/black Balkenkreuz)

Bf 109 G-6/AS, WNr.??????, TS+MB, Schleissheim, on airfield (white/grey Balkenkreuz)

Bf 109 G-6/AS, WNr.??????, TS+MB, München, next to hanger

Bf 109 G-?, WNr.??????, TS+MB, Schleissheim, airfield line-up

Bf 109 G-?, WNr.??????, TS+MB, Schleissheim, airfield line-up

Bf 109 G-?, WNr.??????, TS+MB, Schleissheim, airfield line-up

Bf 109 G-?, WNr.??????, TS+MB, Schleissheim, airfield line-up

Fw 190 A-4 WNr.5753, TS+MA, Schleissheim

Fw 190 A-5 WNr.????, TS+MA, Schleissheim

Bf 110 F, WNr.??????, TS+MB, north of München, in hanger

Me 262 A-1a, WNr.??????, TS+MB, Straubing

REFERENCES:

Luftwaffe Verband:

Issue 29, January 2002
Issue 32, October 2002
Issue 33, January 2003
Issue 36, October 2003

[ouidjat]

Hi All,

Hope it's not too late to put some comment:
Bf109F-4 WNr.7551 is mentionned in JG54 lost list. 15/02/42, 6./JG54, Fl.Pl. Siwerskaja.
Cheers, Franck.