KG51 losses on 23 August 1942.

[kalender1973]

Originally Posted by Andreas Brekken

If you do not report your losses... how the fuck do you get replacements? Believe me, I've been in the 'system' that the armed forces can be called - and we couldn't even get a new pair of underpants without filling out a loss record, not to speak of ammunition or guns (hell if you couldn't account for those parts the whole barracks would be turned upside down and at one time we had to spend an entire night outside on the parade ground because some moron lost a clip on the way back from the shooting range) . And you imply that the GERMAN Luftwaffe would just send aircraft to a unit without getting some piece of paper stating WHY they needed it... dream on!

Regards, and as always I am trying to use a bit of humour and irony!

Andreas B

Andreas, you assume, that replacement was based on the GQM returns? And at the same time, you say, that even for years 41-43 you missed thousends of GQM cases? And neverthenless these planes were also replaced. How were replaced the planes from II/KG51 after the 25.10.42 in Armawir? Only 5 were reported destroyed and damaged. But according the Bestand&Bewegungsmeldungen 20 planes leave unit "Durch Feindeinwirkung" and this confirm also the eyewitness?

And how were replaced the planes from II/LG1 after english special forces destroyed more then 10 and the Helbig reports to GQM only 3 or 4 of them. And here is explanation and sample, why LW commanders try to hide the losses: Göring personally send martial court to Helbig, that must decide about his personally responsibility in this case.

And I would say, your sample with with underpants is fine, but you mix peace with war time. Bureaucracy is really decreased at the war time. Even the german