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5th December 2008, 17:00
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II/JG2 31/12/43 losses
Hi guys
Has anyone the losses of II/JG2 for 31 December 1943? Yes, I am seeking the possible identity of the FW190 claimed by Screwball Beurling on this date. Thanks in advance Brian 
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5th December 2008, 17:43
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Re: II/JG2 31/12/43 losses
Brian,
All I have is two Fw190's of 12th staffel with one plot killed (Quimperle) and one wounded (landing at Garl), and two 109's of 5th Staffel one pilot killed one wounded this day. Perhaps Beurling's victim got out OK., Regards Brian Bines
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5th December 2008, 18:09
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Re: II/JG2 31/12/43 losses
Concur with Brian B-2 x FW 190s (only one in combat) and 2 x Bf 109 Gs (both in combat). II Gruppe had the Bf 109s and it was 12 Staffel for the FW 190s. I think that JGr Sud/Ost were also involved?The only confirmed claims I have that day were 4 dest for 165 Sqn and 9 for USAAF
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5th December 2008, 18:48
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Re: II/JG2 31/12/43 losses
Found it. 1/128 lost a FW 190 on take off whilst JGr Ost lost4 x Bf 109 Fs, a Bf 109 G and JGr West suffered 2 FW 190s lost in a mid-air collision. Nothing appears to match with Beurling
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5th December 2008, 21:54
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Re: II/JG2 31/12/43 losses
Hi Brian and Chris
Do you want the good news or the bad? The good news is that I will endeavour to stop drinking - the bad news is that the date of Beurling's claim was 30 December not 31st. Ooops! May I ask you to have another look at your records please? Apologies and thanks Brian
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5th December 2008, 21:59
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Re: II/JG2 31/12/43 losses
What about the loss of the Fw190A-1 110073 near Castels, air-fighting with B17 pilot jump-out Name ?? otto Stammberger
Castels in south of Perigueux, maybe he landed in the garden of Chris' house ??? remi
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#7
5th December 2008, 22:42
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Re: II/JG2 31/12/43 losses
Brian,
Early Christmas drinking ? All I have for the 30th is Ltn. Josef Schirmer (ex II/JG54) + shot down attacking Bombers at Senlis Fw190A6 550910 III/JG2, and Uffz Eberhard Bochert + in Fw190A6 1065 fell attacking Bombers at Nugent 9/JG2. II/JG2 lost five 109's with four killed and one pilot wounded, Regards Brian Bines
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6th December 2008, 14:19
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Re: II/JG2 31/12/43 losses
Me 109 was commonly mistook for Fw 190. What Buzz wrote in his report?
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