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Old 7th December 2008, 11:19
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Re: 6./JG 3 in North Africa

Thanks Rob

All I have is that four Tomahawks of 4 SAAF Sqdn were on patrol in the area and that Capt. Harrison shot a Bf 109 down. Given that Shores says Waibl was shot down, while Fritz was 'forced down', my money would be that Harrison shot Waibl down, but that this pilot managed to walk back to friendly lines.

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Old 7th December 2008, 11:50
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Re: 6./JG 3 in North Africa

Hello Adam,

Traced Waibel -

He belonged to 7./JG 27 - Fw Karl Waibel. During a Jabo-einsatz west of El-Adem - probably due to Flak. Flew Me 109F-4 trop, w/nr 8533, weisse 8. He is MIA.

This could change your opinion.

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Old 7th December 2008, 12:58
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Re: 6./JG 3 in North Africa

Gentlemen,

only a short remark concerning the Staffelkapitän of 6./JG 3 for the period in question: It was of course Oblt. Heinrich Sannemann throughout, who led the Staffel from November 23rd, 1940, until he was posted to Luftkriegsschule 3 at Wildpark Werder in May 1942.

I never said that Lt. Hans Fuß was Kapitän of 6. Staffel during II./JG 3's tour of opertaion in the Mediterrannean ToW ( I don't know where you got that from, dear Leon ); both in II./JG 3 and JFV 8/I Oblt. Sannemann is listed as Staffelkapitän. But although he was officially posted to LKS 3 at the end of March 1942 he stayed on with his Staffel until it moved East to Russia again in May 1942 as is witnessed by his flight log which contains a number of sorties in North Africa and sees the end of this part of Sannemann's career in II./JG 3 with a transfer flight to Pilsen on May 6th, 1942.

This means of course that the date of his departure from 6./JG 3 has to be corrected in both II./JG 3 and JFV 8/I to early May ( probably the 6th and certainlythereabout ) and that the take-over of the Staffel by Oblt. Waldhelm took place only then.

Thanks Rob for your watchful eyes.

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Re: 6./JG 3 in North Africa

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Hello Adam,

Traced Waibel -

He belonged to 7./JG 27 - Fw Karl Waibel. During a Jabo-einsatz west of El-Adem - probably due to Flak. Flew Me 109F-4 trop, w/nr 8533, weisse 8. He is MIA.
Hello,

Fw. Waibel returned from this mission back to his unit. Finaly he went missing on the 14.07.42

Bf 109F-4 WNr.7361 14.07.42 7./JG27 Fw. Karl Waibel (MIA), air combat, El Alamein - 100% green 4+

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