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Re: He 111 loss 22nd August 1944 France
Michal,
Thanks for the info. from loss returns for KG53 supply flights I have :- 1/ 19-8-44 A1+LR 7/KG53 crew of Uffz Finis missing 2/ 20-8-44 A1+DT 9/KG53 crew of Gef Stephan killed or injured 3/ 20-8-44 A1+DN 5/KG53 crew of Ofw. Klein killed 4/ 21-8-44 A1+AT 9/KG53 crew of Ofw Muschinski killed 5/ 22-8-44 A1+?S 8/KG53 crashlanded, crew of Uffz. Lechner missing from return march to Le Bourget |
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Re: He 111 loss 22nd August 1944 France
KTB III./KG 53
Erfolgsmeldung Nr. 2, 19. August 1944 Anzahl: 15 Typ: He 111 Auftrag: Versorgung im Pl.Qu. 19285 Startzeit: 03.57 - 04.40 Uhr Landezeit: 06.50 - 07.30 Uhr Angriffszeit: 04.53 - 05.30 Uhr Angriffshöhe: 200 m Erfolg: Lage der Behalter war sehr zerstreut, da Abwurfplatz nicht gekennzeichnet und deshalb schlecht auszumachen war. 2 He 111 Behälter nicht geworfen, da der Platz ohne Markierung nicht ausgemacht werden könnte. Bomben: 59 Behälter Kraftstoff Abwehr: Leichte Flak, eigene oder feindlich, kann nicht festgestellt werden. Verluste: 1 He 111 Besatzung Uffz. Finis vermisst (A1+LR) Aufklärung: Um 04.35 Uhr wurde von mehreren Besatzungen súdlich Mantes ein Aufschlagbrand beobachtet. Im Plan-Quadrat 392 bei Esternay im Wald etwa 20 - 30 Fallschirme beobachtet. I don't have any information for II./KG 53 from this period. Some crews served in TGr. 30 but III./KG 53 acted independently. In late August III./KG 53 was withdrawn from combat operation and transferred to Woisselsdorf (Silesia) to train for attacks with V-1s missiles (codename FZG 76). In fact crew of Uffz. Lechner landed in A1+NS in Romilly due to Motor Defect. Take-off 02.25, Supply Drop 03.05 (200 meters, Supply Load: 5 Otto Kraftstoff Behälter), Landing Romilly 05.15. According to KTB German Airmen were not injured or killed during landing. Maybe during way back to unit on ground? |
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Re: He 111 loss 22nd August 1944 France
KTB III./KG 53
According to Erfolgsmeldung Nr. 4, 22. August 1944/h, there is an other personal loss during Supply Flight to PQ 00888 (05 Ost). Über Ziel keine Abwehr. Bei Rückkehr über dem Landehafen Le Bourget ein fdl. Nachtjäger im Angriff. 1 He 111 Beschuss... 1 He 111 infolge Beschuss in Santhofen gelandet (1 Verwundeter an Bord). Probably it could be plane A1+ER (is not detailed note), crew of Jakobs. |
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Re: He 111 loss 22nd August 1944 France
I have forgotten, in written KTB III./KG 53 there are some other notes about Personal Losses:
19. August 1944 F Uffz. Finis, BO Fw. Wittmann, Gefr. Herbst, BS Uffz. Schmalenberger, BS Ogefr. Menzel 21. August 1944 F Fw. Muschinski, BO Uffz. Linke, BF Uffz. Steinhofer, BS Uffz. Fittkau, Uffz. Gebhardt |
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Re: He 111 loss 22nd August 1944 France
Michal,
Thanks again for the information. The NVM shows that Uffz Lechner and three of his his crew were reported missing after safely landing the aircraft. I assume they were reported missing while being taken back to Le Bourget by car. I could not find any mention of a member of Uffz. Jakobs crew being wounded on the NVM's or in the KG53 book perhaps a very slight wound, Regards Brian Bines |
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Re: He 111 loss 22nd August 1944 France
Well, I am only quoted documents from KTB III./KG 53
![]() I would be interested if during night August 21/August 22 1944 some Allied Night Fighter claimed Victory or Damage Aircraft over Le Bourget A/F. |
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Re: He 111 loss 22nd August 1944 France
Hello
Thanks a lot ! If anybody would find a more precise place regarding S3+HH crash... Best regards |
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Re: He 111 loss 22nd August 1944 France
NVM gives Paris as crash location for S3+HH. A letter from Volksbund gives place of death of Uffz Follmann as Paris with original burial at Maysel/Oise, north of Paris?
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