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Old 3rd January 2009, 18:41
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Here are three examples known to me.
05/08/1944. Lysander V9748. Shot taken by mistake for a Henschel 126.

http://www.absa39-45.asso.fr/5%20aou...k_anglais.html

08/08/1944. Albemarle P1501. Shot dead in error by 604 Sqn (Mosquito). mistaken for a Do 217.
http://www.absa39-45.asso.fr/9%20aout%2044/aout44.html

P-47 D-5 RE, serial 42-8491. Strafed the HQ of General Patton in Mayenne. It was shot for an anti-aircraft battery of 20 mm. Its pilot 1st Lt. Louis Alphonse G (KIA).


http://www.absa39-45.asso.fr/P47/p47.html
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Old 3rd January 2009, 18:54
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Thanks once again Dahiot

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Old 28th January 2009, 23:21
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No doubt you have got Lt Col GR Johnson's P-38 with its famous RAAF Boomerang shoot down and kill marking but what about Cundles' "Bad Angel" with its scoreboard with nine German, Italian, Japanese and one American symbol. Contact me at revell2000 (at) hotmail.com for picture sources if you haven't got them.
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Old 29th January 2009, 00:44
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Many thanks Treble 2

Yes, I am aware of this incident and have seen a relevant photo but would appreciate references you imply.

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Old 29th January 2009, 12:38
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Correction - name = Curdes. Actually two incidents. Give me your email or reply to mine and I will send you scans of pics etc.
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Old 29th January 2009, 16:27
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Hi Treble 2,

Thanks - my e-mail address is

briancullauthor@fsmail.net

I look forward to seeing the scans.

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Old 31st January 2009, 12:04
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Email sent with pictures.

It would be interesting if your book tried to make some estimates of aircraft lost from different causes.
1. I imagine non-operational losses would be the largest category for every airforce. Training, foolish aerobatics, mechanical failure etc.
2. Everyone knows about the enormous scores of the top Luftwaffe aces (even if they are discounted 50% they still make Allied ones look pale) but reason dictates that far more Luftwaffe aircraft must have been shot down than Allied ones.
3, Friendly fire must be a significant factor.
A difficult statistical challenge requiring much guesswork and assumptions - we will be interested to see the results though!
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