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Old 11th February 2009, 20:30
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puzzling swastika

Today I found this site on the net,

http://www.13tharmoreddivision.org/page1.html

there are two nice photos, the first of a ju88 with wnr. and the other one of a dump with some wrecked jumo 004 and a tail with a swastika that seems to have been impressed on a piece of paper and then glued to the vertical surface. Please notice how the lower part of the symbol seems to be slightly detached.
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Old 11th February 2009, 21:08
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Re: puzzling swastika

Si 204 D ..+.W (?)
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Old 12th February 2009, 01:52
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Re: puzzling swastika

Looks a Si 204 used as a hack machine still with the red band and white disc (from someone with a high rank). The "bent paper" may be just the bent metal skin.
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Old 12th February 2009, 03:23
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Hi guys

Some Si 204's still carried civil regs at this time.This is evident with the National Insignia on the tail.

Most likely D-O??W

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Old 12th February 2009, 15:45
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Re: puzzling swastika

hi,
take a closer look at the ju88: it has a etc under its wings!!!!
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Old 12th February 2009, 17:13
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Re: puzzling swastika

seems to be an Ju 88 S-3 and it was not uncommon, there is at least one photograph in 'Ju 388' book with Ju 88 S or T with fuel tanks under outer wing panels...
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Old 12th February 2009, 20:29
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Re: puzzling swastika

Hi...

I've had a look at the '88'. I don't think it's an 'S', as it has a ventral gondola under the forward fuselage, and its nose transparency is definitely the 'beetle-eye' type, and not the later, smooth curved type seen on 'S' and 'T' versions. I've rarely seen any '88' pics showing underwing racks outboard of the engines... a nice departure from the norm.

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Old 12th February 2009, 20:37
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Re: puzzling swastika

You are of course right and I was wrong, looks like plain A-4 subtype or sth like this
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Old 12th February 2009, 21:56
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The Ju 88 A-4 on thie website was W.Nr. 301558 L1+BM ex-II/LG 1 and has bomb carrier for 250 kg (M5) under outer wing panels. These were standard already known from the A-1 version - but true, they appear as seldom fitted.
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Old 15th February 2009, 14:11
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Re: puzzling swastika

Thank you for the very interesting answers.
I still believe though that there is something strange in this siebel. Please forgive me for my stubborness, but checking a higher resolution image of this photo it still seems to me that the part of the circle from the scratch downwards is separating from the red background (actually casting a little shadow). And no trace of damage, in that area.
http://images.google.gr/imgres?imgur...%3Del%26sa%3DG

thank you for your attention.
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