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Old 18th February 2009, 02:29
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Re: RAF Pilots vs Luftwaffe Jets

They were never RAF either.
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Old 18th February 2009, 06:22
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Re: RAF Pilots vs Luftwaffe Jets

Well in practice the point is pretty moot...

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Old 18th February 2009, 10:57
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Re: RAF Pilots vs Luftwaffe Jets

Bringing back the discussion to the thread's topic:
REVI16,
In 6 days I will be back home. I do promiss you to check the information you are looking for on the book "Me 262 The combat Diary". It has a complet list of claims; however the Ar 234 claims made by the RAF I do not have. I do remember one or two, but not all of them, ok!
Please do wait a couple of days!
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Old 18th February 2009, 15:57
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Re: RAF Pilots vs Luftwaffe Jets

The practice was that Poland paid for all operations of PAF, existence of which was based on an Anglo-Polish agreement.
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Old 20th February 2009, 18:17
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Re: RAF Pilots vs Luftwaffe Jets

The last Arado 234 destroyed by RAF, was on May 2nd,1945 by P/O Watkins, F/Lt Bangerter, F/O Van Eeckhoudt and F/S Kicq of 350 (Belgian) Squadron.

350 Squadron filed a joint Combat Report for 2 May, 1945:
P/O Watkins states: I was leading Flounder section of 6 a/c on an armed recce in the RENDSBERG area. At about 1710 hrs whilst flying at 8000 ft, I saw in the circuit of HOHN aerodrome, a jet aircraft which I identified as an Arado 234 going in to land. I dived from 8000 ft followed by the rest of the section, closed to within 50 yards behind E/A and sprayed the mainplane and side of fuselage with machine gun fire. I broke away port as I saw aircraft smoking. F/L Bangerter states: I followed after Pink 1 and chased E/A as it was crossing aerodrome boundary at 200 ft approximately, E/A turned port away from the aerodrome with flaps and u/c down. I followed and fired cannons with a 5° angle deflection, and obtained strikes on port wing root and port engine, saw flames. I then broke port.
F/S Kicq and F/O Van Eckhoudt stated that they made simultaneous deflection attacks, saw strikes and had to break away because of overtaking speed. Five seconds later, E/A flipped on its back, port mainplane fell off, and E/A struck the ground in a ball of fire.
We claim this Arado 234 destroyed.

Ar234 in question was flown by Oblt. Worzech, Arado Ar-234 (4U+EH) 1.(F)/123


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Old 2nd March 2009, 16:42
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Re: RAF Pilots vs Luftwaffe Jets

Sorry for the delay! I am frequently in a hurry!
I am enclosing the ANEX V from the book "The Me 262 Combat Diary" by Foreman and another historian whose name I forgot by heart. This is one of the most interesting books I read about the Me 262 with a lot of interviews and cross-checked information, table of victories, losses, etc...a must!
Hope you will find it and buy it on the net.
All the best and again forgive me being so late to answer,
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