Fledgling Eagles

[Alex Smart]

Hello,

This has probably been sorted out long ago, but I came accross the following in Fledgling Eagles yesterday.

Page 116
With regard to the 3rd and 4th paras.

3rd
Two 1 Staffel Messerschmitts force landed. Lt Heinz Schultz coming down in a field near Puttelange in "White 11" (WNr 1251), whileFw Karl Hier brought "White 14"( WNr 1304) down near Goesdorf, both pilots becoming prisoners.
Then
4th
Meanwhile Ofw Herfried Kloimúller had become disoriented and landed his Bf109E "White 1" (1304) on the French airfield at Strasbourg-Neuhof,wher he was made prisoner.

Both Hier's and Kloimúller's Bf109's are given the same Werke Number ??

So if it is accepted that Hier's a/c was WNr 1304 then what was the WNr of Kloimúller's ?

Many thanks
Alex

[Laurent Rizzotti]

From Avions Hors Série n° 10: Les pertes de la chasse de jour allemande en France 1939-1945: vol 1, Sept 1939 - Dec 1940,

22/Nov/1939

Bf 109 E-1 WNr 3372 "red 14" 100% 2./JG 52 Uffz Hellwing FSA/KIA
Parachute didn't open, fell 1 km SE Hatten, 17 km NE Haguenau

Bf 109 E-3 WNr 1251 "yellow 11" 100% 1./JG 76 Lt Heinz Schutlz POW (liberated after French defeat in June 1940)
Forced-landing at Rémering-les-Puttelange, 55 km SE Metz, after air battle against Ms 406 of GC II/6

Bf 109 E-3 WNr 1304 "white 1" 100% 1./JG 76 Fw Karl Hier POW (liberated after French defeat in June 1940)
Forced-landing 2 km NW Woerth, near Goersdorf, 15 km N Hagenau, after air battle against Ms 406 of GC II/6

Bf 109 E WNr ? 100% II./JG 77 Uffz August R Edrich KIA
Took off with another Bf 109 to chase four two-engined aircraft and shot down by French AA fire (8th battey, 404e RADCA) near the French-Belgin border. Crashed near Haraucourt, 10 km SSE Sedan

23/Nov/1939

Bf 109 E-1 WNr 1215 "red 14" 100% 2./JG 51 Ofw Herfried Kloimüller POW (liberated after French defeat in June 1940)
Lost over France, landed at Strasbourg-Neuhof airfield and captured with his intact Bf 109

[Alex Smart]

hello Laurent,
Thank you for your reply.
Sorry to have been so long in responce.

Can you please help with W Nr 1980 who's rudder was later reportedly used as a replacement on the captured 109 in the UK.

Thank you
Alex