Photos + 7-4-05 - Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum

edwest · #1 4th July 2005, 22:32

Primoz · #2 4th July 2005, 23:18

The first 109 (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tem=6191537704) seems to be the mount of Reinhard Seiler (1./JG 54).

Larry Hickey · #3 5th July 2005, 00:08

The first 109, http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...item=6191537704, is Oblt. Seiler's F in Russia during the late summer of 1941. For a similar view of the entire aircraft see P. 62 of Barbas' "Aircraft of the Luftwaffe Fighter Aces, Vol II," or P. 14 of "Planes of the Luftwaffe Fighter Aces, Vol I. This view includes the rudder with Seiler's victory scoreboard.

The second 109, http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...item=6191349229, is probably an E-4, that appears to be "Yellow 1," of 3./JG 51, which would make it the a/c flown by Oblt. Richard Leppla, the St. Kap. This apparently represents the third known aircraft that he crash-landed during the French Campaign and the Battle of Britain. It (a) either crash-landed in France sometime in late May or early June, 1940, followed by a crash-landing by a replacement "Yellow 1" on 24.6.40, or b) is an aircraft assigned to Leppla immediately after he crash-landed on a French beach in a different "Yellow 1," on 18.8.40. The latter is discounted by the fact that there appears to be no yellow markings on the tail of the aircraft. The rudder appears to carry a scoreboard, which if it is a/c (a) above, would probably be four victory tabs. The dark area below it could be combat damage, or some other type of scoreboard markings other than aerial victory tabs. Leppla scored his 4th victory on 22.5.40, and did not score another confirmed victory until 28.7.40. If this was the immediate replacement a/c for (b), before yellow markings could be added, the victory tabs could total 5-7, depending on the date. If anyone else can shed any light on this photo, or provide a close-up of the tail markings, I would appreciate hearing from them here or in my private mailbox on this board.

Of course, there is a small possibility that this is "Yellow 11" of the same unit, but the spacing doesn't seem to fit that scenario very well.

Thanks,

Larry Hickey

brewerjerry · #4 5th July 2005, 08:11

Hi

Third Misc, shows a camera being fitted , never seen it before , anyone any ideas as to type of a/c .
cheers
Jerry

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tem=6191484361

Primoz · #5 5th July 2005, 10:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by brewerjerry

Hi

Third Misc, shows a camera being fitted , never seen it before , anyone any ideas as to type of a/c .
cheers
Jerry

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tem=6191484361

I think it's either a Ju 87 or an Hs 129. The camera was probably used to obtain spectacular "in action" photos.

markojeras · #6 5th July 2005, 12:58

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gogh · #7 5th July 2005, 16:37

Zdravo

Jaz razumes tvoja jezik malo, ali dosta ljudi ne.
Ali hvala Angleski jezik.
Bok Peter van Gogh

I understand your langues a bit, but more people not.
Please use English.

Cheers Peter van Gogh

brewerjerry · #8 5th July 2005, 19:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Primoz

I think it's either a Ju 87 or an Hs 129. The camera was probably used to obtain spectacular "in action" photos.

Hi,
thanks
jerry

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