New Ju88 wreck found

[harrison987]

Oxby...

I have had MANY Me109 wrecks, wreck parts, and engines in my posession, all in various states. I can tell you 100% that the conditions in Russia are much different than in Wales and other parts of Western Europe. And certainly these parts were not in the condition of the pics you sent.

The Ju88 clearly was not dug...

I was told that is how it was found in the forest. To me, it seems more like a junk pile of parts from a Ju88.

I recently saw the top turret to a Panzer II in someone's back yard in Russia...all with original paint...and many other things just "sitting" in Russia. So who knows...maybe some farmer had all the parts sitting around a decided to finally dump the lot many years ago.

Someone I know has a Ju88 tail section that was removed from a wreck in Norway. It still has 90% original paint...and this is after being outside for decades.

This Ju88 is not recorded anywhere. It is clear from the pics that it is 100% original...so in ID needs to be established...if not a hoax

more info will follow

Mike

[Oxby R]

Originally Posted by harrison987

Oxby...

I have had MANY Me109 wrecks, wreck parts, and engines in my posession, all in various states. I can tell you 100% that the conditions in Russia are much different than in Wales and other parts of Western Europe. And certainly these parts were not in the condition of the pics you sent.

The Ju88 clearly was not dug...

I was told that is how it was found in the forest. To me, it seems more like a junk pile of parts from a Ju88.

I recently saw the top turret to a Panzer II in someone's back yard in Russia...all with original paint...and many other things just "sitting" in Russia. So who knows...maybe some farmer had all the parts sitting around a decided to finally dump the lot many years ago.

Someone I know has a Ju88 tail section that was removed from a wreck in Norway. It still has 90% original paint...and this is after being outside for decades.

This Ju88 is not recorded anywhere. It is clear from the pics that it is 100% original...so in ID needs to be established...if not a hoax

more info will follow

Mike

Hi Mike - Can't disagree with any of what you're saying in above post. I've no difficulty in acknowledging some wrecks turn up in various states of preservation. I will also agree your pictures feature parts of a Ju88, and they appear to be 100% original. Some wrecks as you say - are in remarkable condition even after such a long period. You may recall the USAAF P47 'Jug' recovered from the depths of Lake Constance a couple of years ago. The condition was amazing - with original paint still visible under the muck, and no aluminium corrosion whatsoever. Apparently this was down to immersion in fresh water at considerable depth with consequent low water temperature & v low levels of oxygen.. anyway I digress slightly.

Yes, I wouldn't be at all surprised if you're correct - that some farmer perhaps had stored these Ju88 parts for some years in a barn or somewhere before finally dumping them. They do look like the sort of collection which might be more easily transported. But you have to admit this find does beg a lot of speculative questions. Aside of identity details I mean. Where is the rest of the fuselage & wings for example ? And is this the original crash site ? (or just where the collection was dumped ?) As for the engine, well there is no denying she is a beauty - occurs to me - she might even be good enough to restore to running condition. If that's the case - I'll quite happily volunteer to do the engineering works. chuckle.

..but... to imagine these things have been out in the open all that time? Hmm, that beggars belief. But.. ok ok - its not impossible. If indeed that does turn out to be the case - well, then it is a truly remarkable find. I'd like very much to know more. Mike - I wish you the best of luck in your quest to get more details. Incidently - there is no doubt cast over your integrity here whatsoever - I'm just genuinely interested in finding out more as to how those parts got there, and their history. I'm sure there are others who are also following your thread with great interest.

atb richard

Ps A friend of my Dad's ('Moose' Fumerton) kept a rudder from a Ju88 as a war souvenir - he shot it down himself over the western desert in 1942. Apparently he kept it in the loft for years before donating it (and his medals) to a museum in Ottawa, Canada. But for the dust - you'd think that thing was brand new.

[DaveM2]

Guys

No reason at all that this is not an original find, I have photos from a similar, and actually better preserved wreck that was discovered in a wood a few years back in Karelia (wk nr etc still visible), it was also a tail section and wings-engines, but the front was destroyed. Protection comes from the trees growing around the wreck crash site and the canopy that grows above (witness the Fw 190). It would be nice to see further shots of the remains of the front fuselage-if there is any.......

regards
Dave