Fake Tail Section and Swastika?

[philippe1]

there are indeed fakes but remember that the germans have used captured american planes and they painted the german cross on for recognition. the opposite was also done by the usaaf.
maybe you have to search if those numbers found inside have any sence in american parts numbers ?

[stephen f. polyak]

Call me odd-man out! Having owned six Luftwaffe real-deal tail sections representing three a/c types (I'm "down" to four panels at present), and having seen/examined countless others (both cloth and metal, some real and some believed/obviously fake) over many years, in my judgement it's probably OK. Nothing I can see gives 100% proof otherwise. And, no, I do not have any connection to this item or its seller. Looks like a rather typical, composite fabricated, hastily painted, late war example to me - inside and outside. Let the thread continue, I'm sitting down . . .

[harrison987]

Hi Steve,

But...very few aircraft flew with that style of swastika. And NO German aicraft had a dark green interior, NOR had swastikas painted in 2 halves. They did have templates, but they were full templates, not a "half" swastika.

Late-war aircraft, did not have interior primer as of 1943 (date I am not 100%). It was left as bare aluminum to speed production time. All late Me109, fw190, me262, etc. were not painted. And certainly not in a Dark Green. RLM02 was a light grey...so even if this had oxidized due to age, it certainly would not have turned to a very dark green.

One of the other problems is the seller lied about where he got it from. I just spoke to someone who was interested in this panel last year, when it was owned by someone else. This "someone else" was NOT a vet as the new owner is claiming. it was an other dealer.

So...made up story of who he got it from does not look good. Also, if this was 100% original...why cut the thing in half? surely anyone who buys a 100% original tail section, with vet history, is not going to chop it in half.

I suspect he knew it was fake...and wanting to get his money back, chopped it into 2 pieces.

[Junkers88A1]

Originally Posted by harrison987

Hi Steve,

But...very few aircraft flew with that style of swastika. And NO German aicraft had a dark green interior, NOR had swastikas painted in 2 halves. They did have templates, but they were full templates, not a "half" swastika.

about that.. in the museum at gardermoen where i work restoring a Ju 88 A1 ( werknumber 0119 ) we have taken several original stabs from other wrecks to use in the restoration prosess. it was quite a unusal sight when we drilled of the top skin one the stab and they are green inside. the pictures might show them a bit grey ( its dust ) but they are green as the leafs on the trees..and these has not seen sunlight since they were rivited together by Junkers company, and i have after that noticed that many skinns facing inside of german aircrafts are painted green ( some dark..some lighter ) the last stab we opened had pretty much the same colour as the above picture.. just make a i bit wet so the pigment show better and the pics i post here will get a lot greener. its not the same green as the tail shown in this thread ..but still its green

now if this is tail is real or not i will not get into as i havent seen it in real life ! but the green inside is 100% ok with me.