Fake Tail Section and Swastika?

[Junkers88A1]

Originally Posted by harrison987

Hi Steve,

But...very few aircraft flew with that style of swastika. And NO German aicraft had a dark green interior, NOR had swastikas painted in 2 halves. They did have templates, but they were full templates, not a "half" swastika.

about that.. in the museum at gardermoen where i work restoring a Ju 88 A1 ( werknumber 0119 ) we have taken several original stabs from other wrecks to use in the restoration prosess. it was quite a unusal sight when we drilled of the top skin one the stab and they are green inside. the pictures might show them a bit grey ( its dust ) but they are green as the leafs on the trees..and these has not seen sunlight since they were rivited together by Junkers company, and i have after that noticed that many skinns facing inside of german aircrafts are painted green ( some dark..some lighter ) the last stab we opened had pretty much the same colour as the above picture.. just make a i bit wet so the pigment show better and the pics i post here will get a lot greener. its not the same green as the tail shown in this thread ..but still its green

now if this is tail is real or not i will not get into as i havent seen it in real life ! but the green inside is 100% ok with me.

[CCNCCN]

I have also seen several examples of this green color on the interior of swastika's cut from Me-109 tails. Off topic question for Junkers88A1 - what was the cockpit width of the Ju-88?
Thanks

[Junkers88A1]

that depends on what area of the cockpik you wonder about as it narrows in the further front you go.. and i dont have the numbers here but its easily found out next time i am in the museum working on the A1

[CCNCCN]

Just curious about the cockpit width at the pilot's seat position - thanks

[Junkers88A1]

1.20meters at shoulderhight at pilots position

[CCNCCN]

Interesting, that's a bit smaller than it looks (at least to me) in pictures - thank you

[Junkers88A1]

its really small. did measure it today when i was in the museum ! i measured it from the bottom of the forward canopyframe ( shoulderheight )

[CCNCCN]

wow - awesome restoration!

[Junkers88A1]

thanks

its the whole story on my website

http://www.ju88.net/

its a lomg ongoing process but its slowely starting to look like something

[Andy Saunders]

Hello Junkers 88A1.

I am in constant amazement at the superb restorations undertaken at Gardermoen and Bodo and have visited the latter twice. What you guys have done, and are doing, is awesome!

I understand what you say about the "green" colour and have seen this myself, too. However, I am of the view that this is in fact one of the RLM shades. I admit it does appear "greenish", but I don't think it is the same colour as on the interior of the swastika panel under discussion. That said, viewing these shades on a monitor is not a reliable basis, I suppose, for any definitive answer to be forthcoming. How you and I both view the colour will doubtless be different on our monitors - as it will be for everyone else. Perhaps the jury is still out on this aspect, although interior colour aside I remain convinced that this swastika panel is a fake.

One last thing, Junkers88A1. Slightly off topic, but were you involved in the He 111 restoration(s)? On a technical point I am curious to know what the collection of small round apperures is on the starboard side of the nose on the He. 111 just aft of the nose glazing. They appear in many photos of 1940 period He 111's and there has been some discussion here on another thread about this. They seem something to do with flare/signal cartridge stowage. But why? And how? And why are there this series of holes in the external skin - was this covered in fabric or something of the sort? I am just puzzled as to what this is. I am hoping that someone can tell me and put me out of my misery!! I just want to understand what it is/was and its purpose! Does the Gardermoen Heinkel have it?

Andy