Strange code on Me 110

[Andreas Brekken]

Hi.

Yes - the GenQu list give the aircraft as a Me 410, not a Bf 110.

Do you have access to the VLM?

Regards,
Andreas B

[DB601E]

Hi Andreas,

i don't have a copy of the original VLM, but i have two
letters from the WASt, they where checking twice the
VLM and named a Me 110.
Eye withness reported a crash of a Me 110 that day.
Fishermen "fished" some pieces of a Me 110 years after the crash.
Pictures of salvaged parts show definitively Me 110 parts.

As far as i know, the WNr. type doesn't fit well to a Me 410, but i'm not sure.

As you can imagine, in the beginning of my research, i was searching in archives and underwater for two wrecks, until i realised it's the same one.

[RT]

Balke gives 2485 but still a Me410, but this Wn is not a Me410 Wn, STKZ is T.+ZH, V.KG2 suffers other losses of Bf110/E-F in those days

Remi

[DB601E]

Hi Remi,

thanks a lot for the info. Seems to be a combination of the 2 sources. I was in contact with Mr. Balke before and will ask him for his source for this loss.

@Andreas: Do you have something for WNr. 2485 (Crash/accident before july 43)?

Greetings

Lino

[RT]

2485 is unknown as lost/damaged or own by any unit, that gives confirmation for your 2485 accident

Remi

[DB601E]

As far as i know, the destroyergroup of KG 2 (V. KG 2) was formed shortly before the accident. (around june 1943)

So the aircraft was build 2 years before, there should be a high possibility for a damage.

Perhaps we should also look for WNr 2425 (For the case at least this part was correctly mentioned in the GQM loss list.)

@Andreas
>>Yes - the GenQu list give the aircraft as a Me 410, not a Bf 110.
What's the WNr. for your loss?

Thanks a lot for help

Lino

[RT]

2425 hs been 100 % lost time before, your case for me is solved the V.KG2 was at that time in formation, with numerous training flights, production of 410 was just beg. , maybe KG2 was the first to use it with KG51, so short of planes used second-hand Bf110, your plane is at 90 % if not more the Bf110E Wn 2485, Balke aprrouved his book is based on NVM GQM + Summ.verl. Meldungen, quite easy to see

a 2 years old plane is quite common for schools/preparation... , the KG26 start the war with He111H-1s in 1939 nd finished it at least for one group with the same model He111H-16s

Remi

[DB601E]

Hi Remi,

You are right, the WNr. 2485 should be almost safe now.

Perhaps one reason for the "Me 410" entry is the fact, that
V. KG 2 is only known for the use of this aircraft type.
But the Bf 110 was also used for training and preparing the
crew to the new Me 410.

@Remi
mercie beaucoup

Do you have some details for the 2425 loss for me?
Date/Unit

[RT]

Sorry , I misread the post of Evgeny, seems to me that he gave the loss-date,no just the birth-date, so we hv to downgrad my 90 %/your Safe to
50 % /half-safe.

It would be interesting to know why Balke select the 2485 vs 2425

...

Remi

[Andreas Brekken]

Hi, Lino

The WNr in the GenQu report is 2425, but as stated given as Me 410.

Regards,
Andreas B