Mosquito Hunters

[Leo Etgen]

Hello guys

If the information by Boiten is correct it would appear that Oberleutnant Kurt Welter (63 victories, RK-EL) was indeed the top scoring anti-Mosquito ace. He does appear to have definitely shot down five RAF Mosquito twin-engined aircraft and possibly/probably seven others. Here is what I have on this fellow. Any comments or corrections will be welcome.

http://rapidshare.com/files/339866077/Welter.rar.html

Horrido!

Leo

[RodM]

Originally Posted by Leo Etgen

Hello guys

If the information by Boiten is correct it would appear that Oberleutnant Kurt Welter (63 victories, RK-EL) was indeed the top scoring anti-Mosquito ace. He does appear to have definitely shot down five RAF Mosquito twin-engined aircraft and possibly/probably seven others. Here is what I have on this fellow. Any comments or corrections will be welcome.

http://rapidshare.com/files/339866077/Welter.rar.html

Horrido!

Leo

Hi Leo,

some comments on the Welter claims, since you appear to have updated your website based upon information published in 'The Nachtjagd War Diaries Vol 2'.

On pages 351-352 of that publication you will see a list of Kdo Welter-10./NJG11 claims along with a summary narrative. In the listing, I have included provence of the claims information where known. You will notice that a lot of the claims attributed to Welter have VERY weak and unreliable provenance, specifically:

1. five claims up to 16/1/45 are based solely on the Nonnenmacher/Ring listing with regard to the dates, and a written statement prepared by Welter for the British that simply stated he shot down three Mossies and two Lancs before the end of Jan 1945. As became apparant during research and has subsequently been confirmed independently, Nonnenmacher/Ring invented a lot of Bullsh*t to include in their listings as a 'security' measure - and various fictitious Welter claims were a part of this deception. I have yet to see a reliable listing for Welter's initial five claims on the Me262, specially with regard to the dates of these claims (reliable meaning that it is backed up by verifiable documentary evidence).

2. of the post-Jan 1945 Welter claims, only the three on the night of 21/22 Feb 1945 have direct documentary provenance linking Welter to the claims by name. For the rest, although documentary evidence exists that claims were made by 10./NJG11, no provenance other than the Nonnenmacher/Ring listing (see 1. above) links any of them to Welter. Note that some of the BS claims invented for Welter by Nonnenmacher/Ring were weeded out and disgarded prior to the publication of 'The Nachtjagd War Diaries'.

Cheers

Rod

[mhuxt]

Originally Posted by RodM

of the post-Jan 1945 Welter claims, only the three on the night of 21/22 Feb 1945 have direct documentary provenance linking Welter to the claims by name.

Hi Rod,

How many Mossies were lost that night?

Cheers,

Mark

[RodM]

Hi Mark,

...absolutely zero!! If I recall correctly, returning Mossie crews didn't report any attacks or damage. On 2/3 March 1945, two certain and one probable claims were also made, but at least a Mossie was actually damaged by cannon fire, although, again, none were lost.

Rod

[mhuxt]

Hi Rod,

Thanks for that, as expected then.

I had it in the back of my head that Becker may have been "the man" on jets.

I believe Addi Glunz got three by day.

Cheers,

Mark