Bodenwöhr Waldwerk - Mtt Bf 109 K-4 assembly lines 1944 - 1945

[Peter D Evans]

Originally Posted by S Sheflin

I don’t think 335141 is anywhere near the highest 335XXX WNr. extant. In my admittedly limited database file I list:

335170, 335177, 335185, 335197, 335199, 335201, 335204, 335206, 335207, 335208, 335209, 335210 and 335211.

As I've posted on a similar thread over on the LEMB here, according to "Messerschmitt Bf109K Camouflage & Markings" by T.Poruba & K.Mol [JaPo, 2000] they listed some 18 WNr's listed higher than 335141, the highest being 335215... however, there may have been some higher ones discovered since their list was compiled...

Cheers
Peter D Evans
LEMB Administrator

[ouidjat]

Hi there, Hi Steve,

Forgive me to try explaning the situation:
When the picture came on line, some, including me, started to think that we where seing/reading a "6141" (for 336141) which is merely impossible since the last K-4 335xxx production batch for Messerschmitt AG, Regensburg is known to be 335000 to 335300. Until further notice...
When Marc is saying "I do not know of any higher Bf 109 K-4 documented W.Nr." he is speaking about "pictured"... And he is speaking about himself, not for the whole community; well, I suppose, he will correct me if I'm wrong.
Now, Steve, if you have Higher Nbrs than 335141, it's perfectly possible inside The last 335xxx batch I'm talking about.
For example, 335197 & 335198 are cited in Marschall "Sea Eagle" and in Manfred Griehl "The Luftwaffe Profile Series No. 4, Focke Wulf Fw 190" respectively, following Peter van Gogh Data base.

Of course if you have PICTURES of the WNr. you're talking about Marc will be extremely happy to know them! .

Take notice, too, that inside the 335000 to 335300 production line, 335166 to 335215 are given as being produced by KZ Flossenbürg - Vilseck - Amberg/Schafhof production line in the same Data base.

Sorry Steve for that long post, I thought it was good to do it.
Last, I'm not an "expert" of course, others in TOCH are more capable than me to give you all the details.

Regards, Franck.

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Hi there Steve, Franck and Peter,

Steve and Peter,
you're of course correct: higher W.Nr. are documented on paper, no doubt (Poruba and Mol 2000).

Franck, you read me out perfectly ;-)) I was meaning "highest W.Nr. supported by photographic evidence." Late hours fpr posting do imply too short messages, like tonight!

Cheers
Marc

[Rémi Baudru]

Two photos of 335197 ? (see number painted on rear fuselage).

These two photos come from an old french ebay auction.

Best regards from France.

RB

[ouidjat]

Hmm Rémi,

C'est Marc qui va être content.
Thanks very much for these pictures Rémi; You got the point today. Any idea of unit and place?

Regards, Franck.

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Rémi,

Champagne! Beautiful discovery and at long last again some new Bf 109 K-4 imagery! Where did you find them? Any location on the pics?

Many thanks for sharing
Marc

Franck: Merci pour l'info;-))

[masmar]

Yes, many thanks Remi! never saw them.
the werknummer is applied with the help of stencils as seen on all Bodenwöhr K4's so far.
The scenery with the buildings timber frame construction reminds me somehow of franconia. Like those K4 found near Fürth airfield. That kind of architecture is very common in this area.

Thanks again!
Matthias

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Hallo Matthias,

Thanks for your input; this brings us back towards the Fürth junkpile showing discarded K-4 fuselages...

By the way, could you keep building on your modelling spree of Bodenwöhr machines?

Cheers
Marc

[masmar]

Hi Marc,

I only finished the base. Since I'm not really an ardent modeller I've no further bricolage projected.
I'm hunting for pictures showing finshed fuselages waiting at Bodenwöhr station for their shipment to Cham airfield. Reportetly they where displayed at a regional history exhibit in Bodenwöhr some years ago. But I just started the hunt.

Matthias

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Glad to see the pics Matthias! Lot of atmosphere with the dead leaves... Thanks for sharing them. Crossing my fingers for your next picture hunt!

Cheers
Marc