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Re: SeenotSt.6 Losses 1-11-1943
Post#7: I have WNr 1001 as CI+GO not GI+GO. The block GI+G_ are Ju 88 G-6 as far as I know.
To muddy the whole issue: for KK+LQ I have WNr. 2126; WNr. 31047 and WNr. 1047 what is correct? Regards, Norbert |
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Re: SeenotSt.6 Losses 1-11-1943
Hi Norbert and all others In the KK+L? block I have also many conflicts.
To me its looks like that the RLM has given some blocks for the Do24 but that a clerk of the factory used them 2 times, or an attempt tho confuse the enemy perhaps ? Cheers Peter |
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Re: SeenotSt.6 Losses 1-11-1943
Thanks!
Those darn clerks..... Regards, Norbert |
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Re: SeenotSt.6 Losses 1-11-1943
The KK+L series of St.kz. was split on two different production runs.
First the KK-LA to KK+LE was used on W.Nr. 1031 to 1035 produced by SNCAN in France. Then there is a gap from KK+LF to KK+LM to which I have no references. Then KK+LN to KK+LZ was used by Fokker-assembled Do 24T-3 aircraft from W.Nr. 2101-2105 (KK+LN - KK+LR), 2111-2113 (KK+LS - KK+LU), 21?? (KK+LV) and finally W.Nr. 2132 - 2135 (KK+LW - KK+LZ). Hope this will clear the matter. |
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Re: SeenotSt.6 Losses 1-11-1943
Friends
Scrap my theory about CI+GE to CI+GN being WNr 991-1000. Were making a SNCAN list and of course then noticed 993-1000 are missing from the document compiled by Lt M.A. Moit. I feel it unlikely they were issued anywhere else, so can I assume those WNr were not built? According to Jean Pierre Dubois 52 SNCAN built Do 24 were delivered to Luftwaffe (22 in 1943 and 30 in 1944). I have asked him if he has found any STKZ details in French archives and await his answer to that. With regard to M.A. Moit's list, at least I have a problem, and that is WNr 1100. This is stated to have had STKZ DT+HB but is not included by him. Does anyone have anything on that aircraft or should we consider it to be a red herring? As usual Björn, thanks for your KK+Lx listings. Anyone else who knows anything about KK+LF to KK+LM? The old LEMB listings seems to be based upon old information.... Cheers Stig |
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Re: SeenotSt.6 Losses 1-11-1943
Hi Stig, I have the following info to your questions:
1. W.Nr. 993-1000 were never used in the Do 24 production by SNCAN or anyone else. 2. The total number of French built Do 24 differ in the two sources I have. In the RLM Aircraft Production program Nr. 227 of 15.12.1944, the total number of French built Do 24's are given as 47 aircraft. In the US Navy report by Lt. M.A. Boit, the total number is quoted as 54 aircraft. However, two of these crashed before being accepted by the Luftwaffe, leaving the total to 52 aircraft. 3. W.Nr. 1000 was never built. I have 1101 as DH+HC, 1102 as DH+HD and 1103 as DH+HE. |
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Re: SeenotSt.6 Losses 1-11-1943
The KK+LM is mentioned twice:
1.) FB Wodrig with W.Nr.1003, flights in Schellingwoude and note "SNCAN" 2.) FB Erdmann with Seenotstaffel 9 Regards Rasmussen |
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Re: SeenotSt.6 Losses 1-11-1943
Last edited by gogh; 1st September 2018 at 18:40. |
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Re: SeenotSt.6 Losses 1-11-1943
Many thanks for info.
To Rasmussen: Can you give any dates for the log-book entries. I consider two log-books as good evidence for the existence of a KK+LM. To Gogh: That photo should rule out the DH+H-- as Do 24 St.kz. best regards to you both Seaplanes |
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Re: SeenotSt.6 Losses 1-11-1943
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12.02.1944, Blindflug, Start: Selent 09.50 - Landung: Kiel 11.30, Pilot: Erdmann, Begleiter: not readable FB Wodrig: 03.03.1944, Einflug, Start/ Landung: 16.10-16.20, 16.28-16.31, 16.35-16.42, Start/ Landung in Schellingwoude, note: 1003, SNC... (the not readable part I completed to SNCAN), Pilot: Gundermann, Begleiter: Flieger Wodrig |
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